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What are you drinking tonight 2023.
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Oh yeah.. That's a really unhelpful thumbnail!! No wonder you couldn't see them!
When I moved my mouse over the image, the grey line got wider. I know what not to do now!
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A very nice rye ipa from my favourite brewery.
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This evening, I drank "cheap rubbish lager" that had been spruced up with hops as a way of testing hops before brewing a NZ IPA this weekend.
Made a hop tea with ~1g of each of the 4 hops
Strained the hop tea through a strainer and smooshed the juice out of the hop solids:
Topped up with "premium cheap lager" (as a way of using it up after it came free with a takeaway)
Results:
"Premium cheap lager"
I had a sample from the bottle to try to remember what the base beer tasted like so that I could subtract it from the samples when I tasted them. It tasted ****.
Nelson Sauvin:
This was the least "punchy" of all of the samples, and the least potent on the nose. I got whiffs of marzipan. It was definitely the lightest of the 4, and the most refreshing. I can see why they named it after the wine (even though it doesn't taste of wine) and I can see the corollary with grape flavours. Definitely the driest of all, which would go well in a summer pale ale/lager. My wife went "it reminds me of Curious Brew", which I then googled and is indeed dry hopped with Nelson Sauvin!
Mouteka:
More savoury than the others and moderate on the nose. I got orange flavours out of it, like the bitter pith of an orange, or a blood orange that is more bitter than sweet. I've heard this has lime flavours, which I suppose I could see if I really looked for them. But again, the pithy flavours, rather than the zest or juice.
Citra:
Unsurprisingly, this was the most aromatic of the 4, but not by a lot to be honest. Fresh, and obvious citrus flavours that I would associate more with grapefruit/pomelo than lemon. A bit overpowering with a bitter aftertaste.
Simcoe:
Equal with Moteuka in terms of strength of aroma and flavour. This had citrus notes, but gentler than the others and with a hints of tropical fruits like pineapple and guava (except without the obvious sweetness that you get with the fruit juice).
Then I mixed them, and as expected, a mixture of two hops was tastier than a single one. But not a lot of detail as by this time I had palette fatigue and stopped taking notes. But the mix of NS and Motueka is quite nice (which is fortunate, as that's what is going in my NZ IPA sson)
Made a hop tea with ~1g of each of the 4 hops
Strained the hop tea through a strainer and smooshed the juice out of the hop solids:
Topped up with "premium cheap lager" (as a way of using it up after it came free with a takeaway)
Results:
"Premium cheap lager"
I had a sample from the bottle to try to remember what the base beer tasted like so that I could subtract it from the samples when I tasted them. It tasted ****.
Nelson Sauvin:
This was the least "punchy" of all of the samples, and the least potent on the nose. I got whiffs of marzipan. It was definitely the lightest of the 4, and the most refreshing. I can see why they named it after the wine (even though it doesn't taste of wine) and I can see the corollary with grape flavours. Definitely the driest of all, which would go well in a summer pale ale/lager. My wife went "it reminds me of Curious Brew", which I then googled and is indeed dry hopped with Nelson Sauvin!
Mouteka:
More savoury than the others and moderate on the nose. I got orange flavours out of it, like the bitter pith of an orange, or a blood orange that is more bitter than sweet. I've heard this has lime flavours, which I suppose I could see if I really looked for them. But again, the pithy flavours, rather than the zest or juice.
Citra:
Unsurprisingly, this was the most aromatic of the 4, but not by a lot to be honest. Fresh, and obvious citrus flavours that I would associate more with grapefruit/pomelo than lemon. A bit overpowering with a bitter aftertaste.
Simcoe:
Equal with Moteuka in terms of strength of aroma and flavour. This had citrus notes, but gentler than the others and with a hints of tropical fruits like pineapple and guava (except without the obvious sweetness that you get with the fruit juice).
Then I mixed them, and as expected, a mixture of two hops was tastier than a single one. But not a lot of detail as by this time I had palette fatigue and stopped taking notes. But the mix of NS and Motueka is quite nice (which is fortunate, as that's what is going in my NZ IPA sson)
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Awesome, this is a perfect solution rather than a hop pellet in the bottle.
How long did the hops sit in the water and was it boiling?
Great test AG! My favourite out of those is simcoe. That reminds me, must do a simcoe smash like I've been planning forever!
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Hot water, not quite boiling (out of the coffee machine so probably 90ish).
Sat for maybe 30-45 minutes whilst we had dinner.
I had originally thought about dropping a couple of pellets into the bottle and recapping, but this seemed simpler.
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I liked the Simcoe/citra mix better than either of the two individual hops.Great test AG! My favourite out of those is simcoe. That reminds me, must do a simcoe smash like I've been planning forever!
An unusual dark Hell - very tasty indeed: anyone any idea what the grain bill might be?
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Brewers Friend recipe
20 litres
3800g Pilsner
200g Cara Aroma
200g Flaked oat
200g Munich light.
20g Tettnang
20 litres
3800g Pilsner
200g Cara Aroma
200g Flaked oat
200g Munich light.
20g Tettnang
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That's quite a lot to drink in an evening!
Thanks @Cheshire Cat !
Kids are at grannies, curry is being cooked, easy day tomorrow, why not have a rye ipa!
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Pilgrim Pale, just a pale ale hopped with Pilgrim hops, I've been waiting for this to improve, perhaps it won't. It's pleasant but pretty tasteless if I'm honest.
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Italian Pils whilst watching the build up for the football 
A stout for me and the boss.
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In the Long Pond in Eltham drinking Golden Ale but it’s so cold here only one.
Happy Wednesday guys, I must rennet to take beer from fridge when cold crashing 
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