Will you be downloading the Government track & trace app?

[marshbrewer]

rest of europe already have track and trace software that could be used here. This government decided they wanted their own as they are more concerned about Brexit than the heath of the nation. We've already seen this in action with reference to COV19. The Europe app is time limited the UK app is not.

Five seconds googling, and you will find that the framework used by most other countries, including the many outside of Europe, is an open framework developed by Google and Apple. Who are, erm, American. There is no 'European' app per se. This has nothing to do with Brexit / EU policy.

I think that NHS IT are batshit crazy not using it, but its nothing to do with Brexit for Gods sake.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Why?
There is a proven history of manipulation of personal data.

Because all this paranoia about what bad stuff this app may do is beginning to wind me up its been all over the radio 5 live since the day they announced it.

I'm off to pour a pint.

I wish i could have a beer but i have work in the morning.

 

[simon12]

2 problems with the app so far are it has all sorts of different issues with phones over 2 years old and only half works with Iphones something like they need an nearby android phone to wake up the blu tooth.
I am not clear from anything if the phone gives you an alert you have been exposed does that mean you can get tested or just you have to isolate is there anything official on this?

 

[Futureboy77]

It's not what it may do, it's what they have done previously.

Some info re how the app won't work.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/05/uk_coronavirus_app/
Nice juicy IPA poured.

 

[foxy]

It's a sorry state of affairs when one allows politics to govern the only tool we have in the fight against Covid-19. Herd immunity is the only way forward while there is no vaccine or cure, I would say this is what most governments are trying to do with a softly softly approach so the medical services do not get overwhelmed again. The app has the ability to identify those who have been in touch with someone who is infected and ask them to self isolate rather than spread the disease further. Remember the grains of rice on a chess board, to see how it can spiral. Its bordering on delusional to think it is a way of a government spying on them, as chippy says more information is gleaned in other ways. Do you think emails can only be read by the receiver? Just using the computer can reveal more information about the user than an app to assist medical services.

 

[Futureboy77]

So an app that doesn't work is a good thing? Nothing to do with politics.

Heard immunity only works with a vaccine in place i.e measles.

 

[foxy]

So an app that doesn't work is a good thing? Nothing to do with politics.

Heard immunity only works with a vaccine in place i.e measles.

So what did they do before there was a vaccine for measles.
https://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2015/02/05/remembering-pre-vaccine-era-diseases-childhood/

 

[MyQul]

It's not what it may do, it's what they have done previously.

Some info re how the app won't work.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/05/uk_coronavirus_app/
Nice juicy IPA poured.

Interesting article

 

[Rodcx500z]

I am just having a beer and relaxing i cant be doing with this *****

 

[MyQul]

I am just having a beer and relaxing i cant be doing with this *****

Why do you keep opening the thread then? You love it really

 

[Rodcx500z]

It makes me giggle makes my day or what ever

 

[Chippy_Tea]

So an app that doesn't work is a good thing? Nothing to do with politics.

I have noticed a pattern with your posts, you use the word probably a lot and the article title also does, have you any proof the app doesn't work?



UK finds itself almost alone with centralized virus contact-tracing app that probably won't work well, asks for your location, may be illegal[/QUOTE]

 

[Rodcx500z]

Last word on this from me i quote a goverment source (MPs said on Thursday that the lack of privacy and data protections could mean that the app would be illegal.) i can link the full artical if needed

 

[MyQul]

Last word on this from me

Dont believe ya

 

[foxy]

I can just imagine the headlines in the Guardian. 'Claud Capstick, a fettler from Pogsons Pig Iron Foundry being stalked by MI5 after signing up to the governments Covid safe app.

 

[Rodcx500z]

Dont believe ya

Here ya go UK may ditch NHS contact-tracing app for Apple and Google model bit of a dodgy source but hey ho

 

[Joust]

The main issue is that the app fundamentally won't work.

Bluetooth isn't allowed to constantly broadcast in the background. Once you lose connection to your nearest person's bluetooth the app will eventually close and stop working.
Unless you keep your phone unlocked and the app open on your screen...

Now... Google and apple allow this on their own apps. But this is strictly forbidden for 3rd party apps. I guess that's why the rest of the world use their solutions.

My lack of faith in the government to make an app that works well, and securely is very very low.

 

[marshbrewer]

Here ya go UK may ditch NHS contact-tracing app for Apple and Google model bit of a dodgy source but hey ho

I hope they have the balls to do this. I don't mind politicians making mistakes (actually, in this case it's a mistake made by the NHSX team which is headed up by a civil servant, but the same applies). What winds me up is when they are so resistant to change that they won't acknowledge the mistake and change track, putting people at risk

 

[MyQul]

Here ya go UK may ditch NHS contact-tracing app for Apple and Google model bit of a dodgy source but hey ho

I was reading that earlier (on said dodgy source). I bet they ditch it now. The Government seem to have a habit of doing things then if theirs a backlash (or outcry about something they're not doing) doing a u-turn.

 

[MyQul]

I hope they have the balls to do this. I don't mind politicians making mistakes (actually, in this case it's a mistake made by the NHSX team which is headed up by a civil servant, but the same applies). What winds me up is when they are so resistant to change that they won't acknowledge the mistake and change track, putting people at risk

I think they'll probably change tack now they're starting to get flack.