I never called you a racist. I called you an apologist to racism.
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I never called you a racist. I called you an apologist to racism.
I think that Salman Abedi was born in Manchester.
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Actors can be unpleasant people as well.
It would apper you are the only one who thinks anyone here is apologising for racists in Reform.
No one is apologising for racists in any party and I am sure as time goes bye any racists in thr Reform party will be removed, they have already removed some they are a new party it's going to take time to find those guilty and remove them.
You mean like David Tennant, absolutly disgusting what he said the other day about Kemi Badenhoc
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I disagree with this. Most people have already made up their minds weeks/months ago. There was moderate jump in the numbers when F*rage u-turned and said he was standing in the election after all. All of this happened before they came out with their 'contract' at a time when they effectively had no policies, plan or stance on anything except immigration and electoral reform.
I don't think they are voting for what is in the contract. I think they are voting for a personality or voting against the other parties.
Well there's a surprise.
Could you link to all the posts here where members are apologising for racists in reform.
It was pretty obvious from his interviews what would be in the contract so obvoously people made their minds up before the contract was published.
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So decided to vote for something without knowing what it actually was? Interesting.
(Cough 2016 cough)
Starmer is on 5 live now people are phoning in and asking him questions all he does is say we have costed the plans we have put in place it's a lie they have costed one year only, he had been asked about hitting private pensions and his answer was the Tories tax pensions, I think we nowchave acgood idea where the money is going to come from as he said no tax, vat etc, I wonder if the Tories will leave the magic money tree behind when they leave.
There is a huge diference betwen deciding which wayxthey may vote and actually voting and I wasn't aware we have had the election and Reform voters have already cast their vote
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It was pretty obvious from his interviews what would be in the contract so obvoously people made their minds up before the contract was published.
It's what has now been called the "Ming Vase" strategy. In 1997 Roy Jenkins described Tony Blair as being "like a man carrying a priceless Ming vase across a highly polished floor", and Starmer is doing the same. He doesn't need to give voters a reason to vote for him, he just needs to avoid giving them a reason to not vote for him.
I think we'll get a year in and things will change. There's no way you can keep things going like they are without either raising tax somewhere, austerity part 2 or finding some kind of new untapped resource .
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Just coming in to check if anyone else had taken the political compass thing I posted
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Yeah, that's bull****. I thought the only difference picking country would have would be the nationalist parties showing on the graph.
Basically this is my take. Starmer is managing expectations. The more tories mess up the closer to tory policy he can get which means he will be judged less for moving slowly away from it. It's a good strategy really. Moving policy too quickly can be disastrous, look at Liz Truss tanking the economy. Small steps in the right direction are better than jumping that way and falling.
An interesting interview this morning.
Del Boy Starmer -
No income tax no VAT (rises) no Tory magic money tree.
Grandad better hide his pension book.
Del Boy Starmer -
No income tax no VAT (rises) no Tory magic money tree.
Grandad better hide his pension book.
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An interesting interview this morning.
Del Boy Starmer -
No income tax no VAT (rises) no Tory magic money tree.
Grandad better hide his pension book.
Oh really, what's the proposal on pensions?
He is going to tax them, Starmer is being led by Blair
Sorry, but where is this being said, other than here?
Very concerning that Starmer has said he's going to tax pensions having spent the past few weeks saying that he's not adding any new taxes.
Wi believe someone has leaked something about taxing pensions so when asked about pensions this morning Del Boy said the Tories tax pensions he didn't say they were not going to tax them more.
