All my AG brews are pants...

[Covrich]

welcome to my world...
all though ive not been as impatient as you,Most my ag beers have been ****e,
fv min 2weeks, then 2 weeks warm 2 weeks cool.
i have about 120 bottle of undrinkable beer :-(
so ive just gone back to basics .. done a couple of Smash just to try and work out why its ****e,
im none the wiser but im slogging on and praying i suss it out,
be patient and as the others say 2+2+2 :grin:

I have done the odd batch which was .. "meh" but thats typically down to me throwing together a recipe with bits and pieces and it not quite gelling.

If you have 120 bottlesw which are undrinkable then I wonder if they are all connected.. literally, were these one after the other?? do they all share the same bad flavour / off taste?

Could it be a wild yeast thats drying them out and had contaminated your equipment?
What sanitiser do you use?

Did the SMASH have the same fate??

 

[Covrich]

It was a perfect brew.

Got 1.048 at 23 litres. Looks and smells great. Absolutely bang on. It’s fermenting as we speak :-)


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Nice!!

You know it is all experience and whilst we are all learning, the more you do the better you get at things and you I dunno learn to deal with situations and adjust ect.

When I started AG you'd get something crop up or something would make me go into a bit of a panic ect ect or efficiency was all over the place.. nower days brew days just all seem to go to plan.... erm... *TOUCHES WOOD*.

You'll get there!! and hopefulluy this will be the one!!:thumb:

 

[AdeDunn]

Too true. I know I'm a big time newbie, but heck I scorched the wort making the wheat beer.... Forgot not to use the temp control and heating element whilst mashing wheat malt as it's mega prone to scorching... I knew it happened, and knew it was a no no, but did it anyway. I now have to clean scorched wort off my ACE before I can use it again (it causes the boiler to trip out during peak boil...).

The beer is still coming out really delicious though. :twisted:

 

[IainM]

Too true. I know I'm a big time newbie, but heck I scorched the wort making the wheat beer.... Forgot not to use the temp control and heating element whilst mashing wheat malt as it's mega prone to scorching... I knew it happened, and knew it was a no no, but did it anyway. I now have to clean scorched wort off my ACE before I can use it again (it causes the boiler to trip out during peak boil...).

The beer is still coming out really delicious though. :twisted:

Snap. Did exactly the same thing with my AG hefeweizen. It really wound me up as I could taste it in the background of an otherwise perfectly good beer.

 

[strange-steve]

Too true. I know I'm a big time newbie, but heck I scorched the wort making the wheat beer.... Forgot not to use the temp control and heating element whilst mashing wheat malt as it's mega prone to scorching... I knew it happened, and knew it was a no no, but did it anyway. I now have to clean scorched wort off my ACE before I can use it again (it causes the boiler to trip out during peak boil...).

The beer is still coming out really delicious though. :twisted:

Snap again, also with a hefeweizen though my brew was ruined, tasted like ash. In 60 odd batches that's the only one that's been dumped.

 

[Saisonator]

Another snap for that one.
It was my first step mash and apparently at lower temperatures the flour from the wheat makes a very sticky mess and adheres to the element.
My wort smelt and tasted burnt so it ended up down the drain even before the boil.
I did another one without step mash, put the grain in a bucket, shook and put the larger grains first into the mash tube. I did not dough in too much at first, added plenty of rice hulls and kept the floury grains till last.

 

[foxbat]

Uh oh I'm doing my first brew with a major wheat component tomorrow (72%) and you four have got me even more paranoid than usual. You're all talking about heating while mashing, right? I'm doing a single infusion BIAB with no heat applied during the mash so I shouldn't get this problem?

 

[strange-steve]

Uh oh I'm doing my first brew with a major wheat component tomorrow (72%) and you four have got me even more paranoid than usual. You're all talking about heating while mashing, right? I'm doing a single infusion BIAB with no heat applied during the mash so I shouldn't get this problem?

I didn't step mash mine, it scorched during the boil, I think too much malt flour and/or protiens escaped through the bottom of the BIAB bag somehow.

 

[IainM]

Uh oh I'm doing my first brew with a major wheat component tomorrow (72%) and you four have got me even more paranoid than usual. You're all talking about heating while mashing, right? I'm doing a single infusion BIAB with no heat applied during the mash so I shouldn't get this problem?

Nope. Mine was BIAB in a peco. I'd recommend stirring while you bring the wort to boil, keep some flow around the element to stop it gunking up and re-dissolve anything that does get stuck to it.

 

[AdeDunn]

I think Saisonater and myself are probably the only ones who did it whilst mashing.

You'll be fine so long as any time there is a source of heat you keep the wort moving. I believe it's fine once you have the full rolling boil, as this is supposed to keep the wort moving.

The other thing I found doing a wheat beer was that even using only 1/4 of a protofloc tablet I got a LOT of trub (would tie in with what you were saying Steve, about proteins/flour escaping the bag), which blocked my false bottom AND bazooka filter pretty much instantly. I ended up transferring using my auto-siphon, so you may want to be prepared to do the same. :lol: The plus side of this is that I have very little trub in the FV compared to my previous BIABs where I transferred using the tap on the boiler. Which means I'll be able to get more beer into the bottles. :thumb:

Beginners luck though, can't taste the scorch in mine, hasn't even effected the colour, it's pretty nearly white.