TV licence for streaming.

[Chippy_Tea]

The BBC is losing money as people stop watching live TV and no longer need a licence so the government are stepping in and are going to force streamers to pay for a licence rather than get to the bottom of why people are no loner interested in the stuff the BBC broadcast.

 

[Laner]

Make the BBC a commercial station and end the licence fee.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I hate adverts but would put up with them to get away with paying the licence fee

 

[Laner]

Adverts - an excuse to pour another drink

 

[Agentgonzo]

The BBC is losing money as people stop watching live TV and no longer need a licence

You still need a licence to watch iPlayer on catch-up. Nothing has changed here AFAIK

 

[JockyBrewer]

I go back and forth on this in my own head.

I think it's important that there's funding for TV programming that is free from commercial concerns.

But I also wonder if the TV License is fit for purpose in this day and age.

 

[Agentgonzo]

But I also wonder if the TV License is fit for purpose in this day and age.

Agree. The world has changed a lot in the last 20 years with the internet and streaming. This problem has just been ignored up to now. At least they are doing something

 

[Chippy_Tea]

You still need a licence to watch iPlayer on catch-up. Nothing has changed here AFAIK

As far as I know if you don't watch live TV you don't need a licence I don't know about iplayer

 

[JockyBrewer]

As far as I know if you don't watch live TV you don't need a licence I don't know about iplayer

If you use iPlayer or catch up you do need a tv license.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/questions/about-bbc-iplayer-and-our-policies/tv-licence

 

[Rodcx500z]

How would they police this second thoughts are there any police

 

[Laner]

How would they police this second thoughts are there any police

Broadband providors will be the easy way, you know just like they do with the illegal content. Oh wait….

 

[Chippy_Tea]

If you use iPlayer or catch up you do need a tv license

So because it's the BBC you need a licence to watch any BBC content live or streamed, so all the people who have stopped paying their licence because they watch nothing from BBC are going to be forced to get a licence to watch Netflix etc.

 

[JockyBrewer]

So because it's the BBC you need a licence to watch any BBC content live or streamed, so all the people who have stopped paying their licence because they watch nothing from BBC are going to be forced to get a licence to watch Netflix etc.

Technically if you watch any live content on Netflix, Prime etc you still need a TV license.

 

[Laner]

Technically if you watch any live content on Netflix, Prime etc you still need a TV license.

Yep, even if not watched on a TV.

 

[DocAnna]

Ok before I get shot down for being a law abiding person... a TV Licence is required to:

• Watch or record TV on any channel on any TV service (like Sky, Virgin Media and Freeview).
• Watch live on streaming services (like ITVX, All 4, YouTube and Amazon Prime Video).
• Use BBC iPlayer

This applies to any device, including a TV, computer, laptop, phone, tablet, games console or digital box.

Short version is unless living screen free...you need a TV licence, and since it's address based, they don't need detector vans - just a list of addresses without a licence, and yes a lot of people each week are prosecuted: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...candal-1000-people-week-casually-criminalised

 

[Chippy_Tea]

@DocAnna - Watch this video he has gone licence free and he explains what you can and cannot watch -

TV licence form link -
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/telling-us-you-dont-need-a-tv-licence

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Technically if you watch any live content on Netflix, Prime etc you still need a TV license.

Yep, even if not watched on a TV.

The OP was not about live streaming it was about people legally refusing to buy a TV licence as they no longer watch Broadcast TV or any BBC content the guy in the video discusses the intention by the government to force those people to buy a licence -

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Do I need a TV Licence to watch Netflix?​

If you are watching a TV programme live on Netflix, you need to be covered by a TV Licence.
You don’t need a TV Licence to watch on demand programmes on Netflix.

Do I need a TV Licence to watch Youtube?​

If you are watching a TV programme live on YouTube, you need to be covered by a TV Licence.
A licence is not required to view user generated content, clips and videos on YouTube. This includes live streamed content that is not part of a television broadcast. Or being broadcast at the same time by other means.

Do you need a TV Licence to watch Amazon Prime?​

If you’re watching TV showing live on Amazon Prime, you need to be covered by a TV Licence.
You don’t need a TV Licence if you’re only watching on demand programmes on Amazon Prime.


https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ104

 

[JockyBrewer]

The guy in the video in the OP never mentioned live streaming content from Netflix and Prime etc he discusses the government forcing those that do not watch broadcast TV and BBC content forcing them to buy a licence to watch Netflix and Prime etc (not live tv) -

But Netflix and Prime do carry live content, which requires a TV license.

 

[JockyBrewer]

Ok, so how do you figure out whether someone is watching the live content of Netflix or not?

The whole thing just isn’t fit for purpose any more, so it makes sense to reform the TV license. If you’re going to have a TV license at all then you’re probably going to apply it to all forms of entertainment content viewing and not just live/broadcast content which is rapidly disappearing.