They said on 5 live earlier hospital admissions are not as high as they had expected (feared), lets hope it stays that way.
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They said on 5 live earlier hospital admissions are not as high as they had expected (feared), lets hope it stays that way.
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Where did I mention Boris? As I said I've been wondering (and myself as well as other forumites, some of who themselves or partners have front line experence over the past couple of days have been discussing. ) How will the the nightingale hospitals be staffed give that the ICU patients need at least one to one care and hospitals will need all the specialist ICU care staff they can get themselves
We may only be at 80% ICU capacity but it's being reported there are hundreds of deaths in care homes. These people obviously arnen't being taken to hospital, which would defianately push us up to the 100% ICU capacity if not beyond. So why arnt all these elderly victims being taken to the Nightingale hospitals. Is it because we dont have enough ICU specialists? Which is my point rather than the bed capacity which we seem to have with the several nightingale hospitals which are being built
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Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer is urging the government to publish an exit strategy from the coronavirus lockdown this week.
The government is expected to announce on Thursday that social distancing measures will continue.
Sir Keir said Labour would back such a move but to maintain public trust "there needs to be transparency".
The government said talking about an exit before the virus had reached its peak risks confusing the public.
The Labour leader has written to Dominic Raab, who is deputising for Prime Minister Boris Johnson while he continues his recovery from coronavirus, to say Labour would support a continuation of the measures.
But, he said, the government needed to set out an exit strategy to maintain trust and to ensure that arrangements are in place for it.
"We've got to have the trust of the public," Sir Keir told BBC Radio 4's Today programme, adding that it was "inevitable that the lockdown will have to continue".
"For that trust there needs to be transparency and openness - they need to know what the thinking is on when lockdown will end."
He said that government planning was previously not quick enough, and said, "let's not repeat that".
"Mass testing and then tracing is likely to be amongst the options for ending the lockdown," Sir Keir said.
"If that is right we need the government to say so because decisions need to be taken now to make sure that the number of tests that are needed and that the arrangements are in place so they can be implemented at the relevant time."
He said that he believed "in principle" schools should be amongst the first institutions to restart following easing of lockdown measures.
In an interview with BBC Breakfast, however, Sir Keir said it would be "wrong" to put a time on when schools should reopen.
"Until we know the curve is flattening, then I'm afraid we have to stay in the conditions we're in," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52287920
The government is expected to announce on Thursday that social distancing measures will continue.
Sir Keir said Labour would back such a move but to maintain public trust "there needs to be transparency".
The government said talking about an exit before the virus had reached its peak risks confusing the public.
The Labour leader has written to Dominic Raab, who is deputising for Prime Minister Boris Johnson while he continues his recovery from coronavirus, to say Labour would support a continuation of the measures.
But, he said, the government needed to set out an exit strategy to maintain trust and to ensure that arrangements are in place for it.
"We've got to have the trust of the public," Sir Keir told BBC Radio 4's Today programme, adding that it was "inevitable that the lockdown will have to continue".
"For that trust there needs to be transparency and openness - they need to know what the thinking is on when lockdown will end."
He said that government planning was previously not quick enough, and said, "let's not repeat that".
"Mass testing and then tracing is likely to be amongst the options for ending the lockdown," Sir Keir said.
"If that is right we need the government to say so because decisions need to be taken now to make sure that the number of tests that are needed and that the arrangements are in place so they can be implemented at the relevant time."
He said that he believed "in principle" schools should be amongst the first institutions to restart following easing of lockdown measures.
In an interview with BBC Breakfast, however, Sir Keir said it would be "wrong" to put a time on when schools should reopen.
"Until we know the curve is flattening, then I'm afraid we have to stay in the conditions we're in," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52287920
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Labour urges clarity good god has Starman come down with a dose of Trumpism bloody idiot
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MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Ed has just been on 5 live, i can no longer take the guy seriously every time he speaks i remember all the Newzoid sketches -
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Might as well have, i will never trust a millioner socialist or champange charlie
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
I dont trust millionaire politicians full stop.
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Apparently petrol is now down to £1 a litre. Now you can all afford to to to the places your not allowed to got to 
Apparently petrol is now down to £1 a litre. Now you can all afford to to to the places your not allowed to got to
I might get one of these to do the Tesco run in.
There is 68 miles in my tank, all them poor buggers with 80 quids worth in and no were to go
simon12
Landlord.
I don't think anything in definite/proven on this yet but the latest I saw suggested it falls to the ground very quickly and its what it lands on is the main source of infection.I read yesterday that if someone who has it coughs in a room particles can stay airborne for 3 hoursthey did go on to say a single one of these wouldn't give you covid-19 but sitting in the room wouldn't be a good idea, this demonstrates why this is so easy to catch even if you think you are taking all the precautions you can you just never know..
PhilBrew
Landlord.
... Rod, I don't understand what you're issue is, apart from apparently disliking the guy because of the amount of money he has
... he's not suggesting we give committed dates or anything, he's just suggesting that we should have some guidelines/policy description that would help to define how the decision about unlocking the lockdown will be made.We all develop policies/frameworks for making complicated decisions all of the time ... as brewers we decide whether we'll just leave the ferment for two weeks or ferment until gravity is stable for more than two days ... as tomato growers we might decide when to pick the fruits on the basis of how red they are ... as buyers of stocks and shares we know we want to buy low and sell high, but we have to make decisions as to how low is low enough to buy ... so ALL Starma is asking the Government is to give us an idea of what basis the decisions will be made to start lifting restrictions. Do we wait till there's fewer than X deaths per day, or fewer than X new cases being identified per day, or what? Or is it just till Boris thinks "Now!"?
We keep being told that the Gov is being led by the scientists on this, and scientists will just about always develop their methods for coming to decisions first ... so why should explaining the mechanisms for deciding this be so difficult?
I for one would feel much more comfortable being told (just as a for instance) "lockdown measures will continue until new cases identified per day fall below 1000, when the first phase of removing lockdown measures (re-opening schools) will commence", rather than the current stance of "we'll all stay in lockdown until we say so"
Cheers, PhilB
Yes the bigger particles fall but the smaller ones stay in the air, i guess what they are trying to say is don't become lackadaisical touching something contaminated is not the only way you can catch it.
I for one would feel much more comfortable being told (just as a for instance) "lockdown measures will continue until new cases identified per day fall below 1000, when the first phase of removing lockdown measures (re-opening schools) will commence", rather than the current stance of "we'll all stay in lockdown until we say so"
Spot on Phil, if there is no light at the end of the tunnel people will become restless we have only been locked down for just over 3 weeks and it already feels far longer, i noticed today there are a lot more cars on the road (it was mainly trucks and vans when lock down started) i guess people are already sick of staying in and the nice weather isnt helping.
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
As a community support worker, Matt Hancock has just announced I can go to the front of the supermarket queue - get in!
