The Coronavirus thread.

[Chippy_Tea]

As a community support worker, Matt Hancock has just announced I can go to the front of the supermarket queue - get in!

Jammy sod, can you get me some hand sanitiser gel next time you are in the supermarket?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

And another WTF moment -


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Police investigate Barrow 'backstreet party' with paddling pools and BBQs
POLICE in Barrow were called out to a number of lockdown breaches on over the Easter weekend including a street party.
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Police investigate Barrow 'backstreet party' with paddling pools and BBQs
POLICE in Barrow were called out to a number of lockdown breaches on over the Easter weekend including a street party.
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[dad_of_jon]

Apparently petrol is now down to £1 a litre. Now you can all afford to to to the places your not allowed to got to

ha - I bought my new car a few days before lockdown. whilst I can't go abroad in it to pick up Belgian beery treats I can at least sit in it and enjoy that new car smell

 

[Rodcx500z]

... Rod, I don't understand what you're issue is, apart from apparently disliking the guy because of the amount of money he has ... he's not suggesting we give committed dates or anything, he's just suggesting that we should have some guidelines/policy description that would help to define how the decision about unlocking the lockdown will be made.

We all develop policies/frameworks for making complicated decisions all of the time ... as brewers we decide whether we'll just leave the ferment for two weeks or ferment until gravity is stable for more than two days ... as tomato growers we might decide when to pick the fruits on the basis of how red they are ... as buyers of stocks and shares we know we want to buy low and sell high, but we have to make decisions as to how low is low enough to buy ... so ALL Starma is asking the Government is to give us an idea of what basis the decisions will be made to start lifting restrictions. Do we wait till there's fewer than X deaths per day, or fewer than X new cases being identified per day, or what? Or is it just till Boris thinks "Now!"?

We keep being told that the Gov is being led by the scientists on this, and scientists will just about always develop their methods for coming to decisions first ... so why should explaining the mechanisms for deciding this be so difficult?

I for one would feel much more comfortable being told (just as a for instance) "lockdown measures will continue until new cases identified per day fall below 1000, when the first phase of removing lockdown measures (re-opening schools) will commence", rather than the current stance of "we'll all stay in lockdown until we say so"

Cheers, PhilB

Ok Phil i will concede on some sort of clarity but i feel it is to soon and people will start to think its over when its not thats the last thing we need, as for my political leanings i am not Left right centre or any other, i would like to see a mis mash of all the good mps coming together in in westmonster a dream i know, i just dont like Starmer and how he comes across

 

[MyQul]

ha - I bought my new car a few days before lockdown. whilst I can't go abroad in it to pick up Belgian beery treats I can at least sit in it and enjoy that new car smell

You could sit in your new car with a homebrew enjoying a multi sensory experience!

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Tories and plan now there's an oxymoron

 

[MyQul]

i would like to see a mis mash of all the good mps coming together in in westmonster a dream

Unfortunately BJ got rid of all the Conservative ones like Oliver Letwin and Ken clarke and replaced them with much less experienced Brexit ultras

 

[marshbrewer]

Unfortunately BJ got rid of all the Conservative ones like Oliver Letwin and Ken clarke and replaced them with much less experienced Brexit ultras

More Boris derangement syndrome. Many, if not most, of the current cabinet were remainers. Ken Clarke didn't even stand at the last election, FFS, and hadn't been in any cabinet of any colour for bloody ages.

But, yea, 'brexit ultras, innit?' or space aliens or Trump or something.....

 

[Chippy_Tea]

ha - I bought my new car a few days before lockdown. whilst I can't go abroad in it to pick up Belgian beery treats I can at least sit in it and enjoy that new car smell

I saved a fortune

 

[MyQul]

More Boris derangement syndrome. Many, if not most, of the current cabinet were remainers. Ken Clarke didn't even stand at the last election, FFS, and hadn't been in any cabinet of any colour for bloody ages.

But, yea, 'brexit ultras, innit?' or space aliens or Trump or something.....

So BJ didnt withdraw the whip from 21 MP's for backing a bid to block a no deal brexit and replaced them all with yes men/women? As I say experienced mps who could help steer the government through the current crisis.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/a...whip-after-backing-bid-to-block-nodeal-brexit

 

[Rodcx500z]

21 voted againts 17.4 million what did they expect mr whippys all round

 

[marshbrewer]

This debate is surreal.

Now, apparently, Boris is wrong for insisting (in the last parliament) that his MP's obey the whip, which is, er, how the whipping system works and has worked for millennia.

What on earth that has to do with Corona God almighty knows. But it does, because of Boris or space aliens or Trump or something.

 

[Rodcx500z]

i,m done i am going for a beer in the man cave

 

[MyQul]

This debate is surreal.

Now, apparently, Boris is wrong for insisting (in the last parliament) that his MP's obey the whip, which is, er, how the whipping system works and has worked for millennia.

What on earth that has to do with Corona God almighty knows. But it does, because of Boris or space aliens or Trump or something.

Yes, it's how the whipping system works but MPs defy the whip 'all the time'. It not withdrawn from them if they defy it. Corby defied the Labour whip 428 times and he became leader (does this say something about the Labour party?)

 

[dad_of_jon]

I saved a fortune


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[PhilBrew]

Hi Rod

Ok Phil i will concede on some sort of clarity but i feel it is to soon and people will start to think its over when its not thats the last thing we need

... I disagree, I think like Chippy suggests people are already starting to think it's all over (or if they're not now, they soon will) ... whereas if you give them some indication as to how they'll "know" when it's over (or beginning to be over, at least) then at least you can give them something to look forward to, something to focus on ... every parent knows that the "because I say so" excuse is the worst reason to give and should only be used as a last resort (e.g. "you're not driving my car, because I say so") ... the reasoned explanation is better, but will only get you so far ("because you're too young to drive") ... explaining the "targets" for being able to get what they're after is better still ("you'll be able to drive when you old enough to get a licence and have passed your test and can pay for the insurance") ... and getting them involved by setting them active goals is better still ("if you really want to drive my car, then you should get on with reading the highway code and preparing to apply for your licence and get through your theory exam").

The UK Government is currently concentrating on the because I say so approach (with the legislation put in place to fine people) and a bit of the reasoned explanation with the "Save the NHS" and "Flattening the Curve" talk. Keir Starmer is simply suggesting that they should try "taking the discussion to the next level"

Cheers, PhilB

P.S. To be clear, I am not making the above statement from a party-political nor a Leave/Remain stance, I just think what he's suggesting seems like a very sensible approach.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

P.S. To be clear, I am not making the above statement from a party-political nor a Leave/Remain stance, I just think what he's suggesting seems like a very sensible approach.

Well said Phil, that is what i thought hence the lengthy post above.

 

[MyQul]

nor a Leave/Remain stance, I just think what he's suggesting seems like a very sensible approach.

So saying all that, are you or are you not saying we should leave the European virus zone so we can strike out and do our own PPE deals?

 

[MyQul]

Captain Tom is ust shy of £9m now . If he keeps going he'll be able to clear the deficit

He's up to £4m now. By the time he's 100 he'll have saved the NHS singlehandedly

 

[Leon103]

I am came in to get the latest figures and find political chat. Bye .