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I can't so haven't really thought about it. What I was getting at was benefits isn't below the poverty line and they are many extras they get on top of the PIP payments.
I don’t think a civilised society should expect those unable to work to forgo shelter, food or warmth, let alone their children.
 
Spot on K the problem with this country is everyone who has never experienced the fun of claiming benefit hasn't a clue the hoops you have to jump through to get them and believe me I know from experience, everyone says they know someone that has been fiddling benefits all their lives in reality in most cases it's bs people enjoying the life of Riley on benefits are in a huge minority however much these people would like us to think this is not the case.
 
All this benefits culture started when a certain Mr Anthony Lynton Blair was elected to power because it suited there agenda and we are now suffering for it, The benefits bill under his watch was massive which is why Ian Duncan Smith decimated it while enjoying £49-00 breakfasts at his favourite eatery, you have to dig deep to understand what is going on in Europe today, a good place to start is Count Richard Kudenhof and his papers of his vision for Europe which were released in the 1800s, there is still a Kudenhof prize given every year to a leader of European Countries Angela Merkel was a recent recipient
 
Spot on K the problem with this country is everyone who has never experienced the fun of claiming benefit hasn't a clue the hoops you have to jump through to get them and believe me I know from experience, everyone says they know someone that has been fiddling benefits all their lives in reality in most cases it's bs people enjoying the life of Riley on benefits are in a huge minority however much these people would like us to think this is not the case.
While i am here i will say yes i know the hoops you have to jump through and all the paper work, in 2009 my wife was awarded full mobility so she got a car with it 2011 she got another 2014 another then suddenly when Ian Dun can smith was vilifiying disabled people left right and center she had it taken away, so appealed which took an age when it got to court no one from the dwp turned up so the judge told my wife to re apply, my wife basically told them to **** of and walked out, she stuck with the lower rate because she didn't want the hassel of re applying, i buy all the cars now
 

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