Speeding up bottle sanitisation help !!!!

[GazBar]

I was also asked after placing an order. I replied stating that I was not registered. The very next day there was a large cardboard box with a small bottle in in waiting for me.

Garry

 

[commsbiff]

Yep - just been emailed too. Think I'll ignore it.

 

[jamesb]

Got a email from them today saying 'Further to a recent order you placed with us, please could you kindly let me know your HPC Registration Number for our records' :wha:

Healthcare Practioner Council - it's on Wikipedia.

I've had that email too. I think I'll e-mail them back, tell them that I don't have one, tell them what it's for, remind them that you don't need a prescription and point them here. Might be handy to keep them on our side.

 

[GazBar]

I have just had a look at there site and they have re classified videne. When I purchased mine around a month ago there was no rating on the product. When i checked tonight it is rated POM

POM - This is a product which can only be sold to a professional practitioner with a prescribing license. This product should not be issued to a patient without a prescription.

Garry

 

[jamesb]

:hmm:

I'll see if I can find out. I have a couple of friends in the medical industry.

 

[dandan]

I've had that email too. I think I'll e-mail them back..........

:hmm:

I'll see if I can find out. I have a couple of friends in the medical industry.

Any outcome to this Jamesb?

 

[goodly dudscrew]

Its right there at the bottom of the page, i am really surprised they sent it to you, but like the others guys here i got mine from my local chemist no problem, although i did have to order it.

I actually thought that they had goose'd me, the bottle was only 3/4 full, but i have just noticed that the picture of videne on the web page is also only 3/4 full, so that must me be just the way it is.

POM - This is a product which can only be sold to a professional practitioner with a prescribing license. This product should not be issued to a patient without a prescription.

 

[mysterio]

or even domestos used at the rate of 15ml of Bleach mixed in to 5 gallons of water and then (AND ONLY THEN) add 15ml of white vinegar . . . makes a very cheap no rinse solution.

Last week the Janitor at the college my mum works at mixed similar solutions the wrong way around when chlorinating the swimming pool, and discovered the effects...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/gla ... 238491.stm

 

[jamesb]

I've had that email too. I think I'll e-mail them back..........

:hmm:

I'll see if I can find out. I have a couple of friends in the medical industry.

Any outcome to this Jamesb?

Not yet, haven't been able to get hold of them but from my own research, it appears that there seems to be some confusion about the status of the stuff.

 

[GazBar]

I contacted one of the sales managers at C&P Medical who operate the My footcare supplies website. This is the response that I recieved.

"We will need to have a HPC number to supply the videne as it was brought to our attention that it was a pharmacy line and we are unable to supply without this number."
Sorry for the inconvenience this may cause

Its a shame, At least I have a full bottle,

Garry

 

[Leglesstwot]

Hi all, newby to the site but not a newby to homebrewing. I am, returning to homebrewing after a number of years and have today brought A Wherry kit from Wilkinsons to restart, this I will be bottling. I always previously soaked and cleaned my bottles in a brewing bin filled with sodium Metabisulphate solution and then gave them a thorough rinse in water. I have never had any problems with this method so are there any reasons why this method still won't be appropriate given all the new fangled solutions that seem to be popular?

 

[stegnest]

Best tip - don't bother !!

I bottle between 50-100 bottles a month. All I do is rinse bottle after use and then store sensibly, when I need a bottle I just rinse it out again with tap water.

I do visually inspect the bottle , if anything is not 100% i.e sediment or staining I simply discard the bottle.

I have done in excess of a 1000 bottles like this now, I have had no infections.

The whole point of beer is that it is robust and takes care of its self.

If you don't believe me , just try a few and see how you go on.

Stegnest

 

[ano]

I've lapsed a few times with bottle sanitation and haven't had an infection.

Sodium metabisulphite isn't good against gram negative bacteria, such as acetobacter which is the thing that turns alcohol into vinegar, which is why you won't tend to see it recommended.

Sanitation seems to be about increasing the odds in your favour, the time spent (<2 hours) could be beer saved. Think of it this way, tail gating when driving is bad driving, it doesn't mean you will have an accident every time you tail gate. It's just more likely that you will have one some time. But risks must be taken if you want to get to the shops, so you look to minimise them. I'm really hungover so my analogy may be nonsense. Night night.

 

[Aleman]

Sod met is fine for sanitising in winemaking as the sugar concentration, acidity and alcohol content means that there is less chance of bugs taking hold . . . . Beer making requires more aggressive chemicals, most are chlorine based which does a fantastic job of boot cleaning and killing bugs . . . but is a bugger to rinse . . . which you can use sod met for.

If sod met was effective the commercial breweries would use it . . . they don't, they tend to use chlorinated caustic based cleansers, followed by a rinse and then a no rinse sanitiser like peracetic.

 

[paulbrrtt]

hmmm I was looking to see what information I can find on cleaning fermentation barrels,pipes etc. At the moment Im using the sterilising powder from wilkos, but I have just bought the tescos thin bleach to try but have no idea of the quantities to use, bit apprehensive using it TBH

 

[tubby_shaw]

Don't worry that's what I use to sanitise my plastic brewing equipment :thumb:
I use about 50ml per litre on clean equipment, soak for 20 minutes, rinse well with cold tapwater, then a final rinse with a kettle full of boiling water will remove all traces of bleach :thumb:

 

[paulbrrtt]

Wow that was a fast reply and than you I was thinking of filling the bucket up with the solution putting all my bits in there then rinsing out , so am I right in saying i need a litre of bleach? bucket is 25 litres sounds a lot to me bugger lol

 

[tubby_shaw]

You don't "need" a litre of bleach about 250ml in a 25 litre fermenting bin will be more than sufficient to sanitise :thumb:
The method posted above is simply what I use because I am a little bit paranoid about nasties lurking in scratches on plastic
Hence the final rinse with boiling water :thumb:

 

[paulbrrtt]

thx tubby for clearing that up ( I did think it sounded a lot lol) I can get on with it now cheers

 

[shaunyp]

Sounds good this no rinse stuff what is the best way to use it?