Speeding up bottle sanitisation help !!!!

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stegnest said:
Best tip - don't bother !!

I bottle between 50-100 bottles a month. All I do is rinse bottle after use and then store sensibly, when I need a bottle I just rinse it out again with tap water.

I do visually inspect the bottle , if anything is not 100% i.e sediment or staining I simply discard the bottle.

I have done in excess of a 1000 bottles like this now, I have had no infections.
Harumph! I soaked in all my bottles in nappysan overnight rinsed and then soaked in saved Starsan (saved from previous week's brewing) this proved to be a false economy as I got a Pediococcus infection. Characterised by a cabbage smell and buttery taste/feel (diacetyl) The StarSan must have gone off the water's very alkaline here and I think the pH has to stay acidic. So let you be warned! You may get problems without proper sanitation
 
Like toast I find the only time I start to get infection problems is when I become complacent about routine sanitation . . . . Its much harder to erradicate once it has taken hold than to prevent it from taking hold in the first place . . . . I am now going to resort to boiling water in my Cornii (Using a 27 Inch immersion element) to make sure no trace of infection lingers.
 
Just chucked 20l of beer made last week: acidic and slightly whiffy. Wondering whether the infection was in the fementer which I may have used to soak the bottles in that got the infection earlier. Oh no! ust used the fermenter again today...If I have to chuck 40l of beer I shall cry. Aleman's warning is ringing in my ears: too late though :eek: :eek: :eek:
Soaked the fermenter in acidified bleach for 1 hour with a good scrub with a scratchy, then soaked it in starsan (newly made) for 1 hour. But that would be what I did last time too. Oh now I'm worried. This beer is for a party!
 
Aleman said:
Like toast I find the only time I start to get infection problems is when I become complacent about routine sanitation . . . . Its much harder to erradicate once it has taken hold than to prevent it from taking hold in the first place . . . . I am now going to resort to boiling water in my Cornii (Using a 27 Inch immersion element) to make sure no trace of infection lingers.

Hmm. That sounds "safe".
 
jamesb said:
Aleman said:
Like toast I find the only time I start to get infection problems is when I become complacent about routine sanitation . . . . Its much harder to erradicate once it has taken hold than to prevent it from taking hold in the first place . . . . I am now going to resort to boiling water in my Cornii (Using a 27 Inch immersion element) to make sure no trace of infection lingers.

Hmm. That sounds "safe".
Its fine . . . With good eathing . . . and an MCBO . . . . Apparently the lights in teh house dim before the element blows when it boils dry :lol:
 
Just wanted to add my vote to the Diet Coke method. A mix of several hours of soaking, a plastic pan scrubber and a final boil in 3L of Diet Coke has left the element and base of my stainless boiler shiny and devoid of 10 years or beerstone.
 
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