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Looking again at the pic i posted of the cycle lane rammed with parked cars, it's on the left, does that mean that cyclists in the right lane share it with them ie 2 way or do they take their chances, answers on a post card
 
So you think all cyclists are squeaky clean and all motorists are the devils spawn, are you saying no cyclist has ever cycled having had a beer or two or the day after they have had a joint, they have never broke the speed limit or any rules of the road.
Chippy, that is one of the great benefits of cycling, cycling to the pub 🙂 . fortunately beerriff, the pilot, the railway inn and even the maerdy are all accessible via cycling paths to me. Mumbales is up a steep hill about 400m off the cycling path so not a good idea to imbibe too much. You can be charged with being drunk in charge of a cycle so whilst no points on a licence there is a law for excess there. In fact my bikes are 50% powered by alcohol, but never on roads if over the legal limit.
 
Yeah but cyclists and lorry drivers are all a bunch of numptys...innit!
are you forgetting those unsufferable sailors and pilots 🤔 rippling the water stressing the fish and flying over out homes making unneccesary noise or ruining our view of a clear blue sky with their con(not chem) trails)
 
The thing is the penalties for illegal driving are too low to have any effect, the risk of a paltry fine for mobile phone use doesn't seem enough of an incentive to some apparently.
Pleading 'Exceptional hardship' gets you off a ban in many cases.

Drivers who are drunk and kill and sometimes the police don't even prosecute. Family of cyclist killed in crash share 'pain of no justice' as case ends
I might be wrong but I somehow suspect driving standards would potentially be much worse if registration plates, MOTs, driving licenses, penalty points and fines did not exist, and the authorities had no idea who was driving any given vehicle and no way of finding out either. In an ideal scenario none of these things would be necessary but without them there is a lot of potential for piss taking. And yeah, the justice system needs to grow a pair when people are victims
 
It's a cycle lane not a fecking car park, i give up

And the cars parked are blocking it. Cyclists can't exactly use the lanes if the motorists don't observe the law. I don't think that picture is making the point you think it is. I don't see what connection you are trying to draw between a picture of cars illegally parked, and cycle lanes being a waste of money.

My view, if you are going to have cyclists cars buses lorrys sharing the roads in London you need to keep them apart, some off the footage show's them ignoring crossings running into the back of each other running red lights, no road sense what ever

And you seem to be making the opposite point here. I might actually agree with some of your arguments if they were coherent and consistent.

Perhaps if people don't like sharing roads with cyclists, their ire should be directed at our elected leaders for not providing decent infrastructure for all types of road users. I'm sure cyclists would love more miles of dedicated paths to keep them out of harm's way.
 
I don't think that picture is making the point you think it is. I don't see what connection you are trying to draw between a picture of cars illegally parked, and cycle lanes being a waste of money.
I think it's fairly obvious what point he is making, what is the point in spending many thousands of pounds on cycle lanes if you don't have enough traffic wardens to keep them clear.
 
by law you must give cyclists space why is it not both ways? Why are cycles not registered (with identifiers) like motor bikes and scooters? Why do cyclists never do life savers? Why do cyclists rarely stop at red lights? Why do cyclists use the road or pavement when there is a cycle lane? As you have probably guessed I was taken out by a cyclist who was on the pavement when I was making a left turn. At a set of lights, the lights changed I checked over both shoulders started the turn and a bike flew off the pavement clipped my front tyre and down I went. Result? Busted ankle and £1000 worth of damage to the scoot.

Don't get me started on the deliverroo gang on their electric bikes.

Lord help us when electric scooters are legal
 
by law you must give cyclists space why is it not both ways? Why are cycles not registered (with identifiers) like motor bikes and scooters? Why do cyclists never do life savers? Why do cyclists rarely stop at red lights? Why do cyclists use the road or pavement when there is a cycle lane? As you have probably guessed I was taken out by a cyclist who was on the pavement when I was making a left turn. At a set of lights, the lights changed I checked over both shoulders started the turn and a bike flew off the pavement clipped my front tyre and down I went. Result? Busted ankle and £1000 worth of damage to the scoot.

Don't get me started on the deliverroo gang on their electric bikes.

Lord help us when electric scooters are legal
I do

don't know

life savers?

I do and pretty much all in swansea do, so can't agree with that as it doesn't match my observations

Some cycle lanes are more risky in parts than the road. also if you are cycling at 20mph+ it is too fast to cycle on a shared path. loose uncontrolled dogs or dogs on large extendable leads taking over the whole width of the shared path. My choice to cycle on a cycle path or road is based in risk and varies. Cyclists are not obliged to use it if available and assuming vehicles arent parked over it as well.

I do not cycle on pavements unless in an emergency/to avoid an accident - emergency services passing etc.
Sorry to hear of your encounter with an R-sole. :( Call police to get them charged and hopefully you can claim of their house insurance if they has any.

Deliveroo - totally agree with you there. I understand it is being run as a cartel almost by local gangs on pimped up e-bikes. all are totally illegal. a throttle is illegal* you have to pedal to get motor assistance. how many do you see pedalling. I refuse to use those services.



* - There is a grandfather clause that old e-bikes before the present law came out had a few more things allowed.
 
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