Eu result!

[Chippy_Tea]

From my stance in Liverpool I've got such a sense of abandonment now that we are no longer an eu member. We were left to rot under thatcher so what's stopping this Tory government doing the same?

Watching 'what now' now and it looks like there could be an election, maybe the Tories won't be running the show.

 

[Leon103]

Don't think we get an election. Just a new pm from within the party

 

[MyQul]

I'll chime in.

I've never voted, and I never will. What's the point?

Without sounding like a whack job, I don't believe your vote matters a jot. A handful of people control this world.

Your just a mere tax payer.

Some contracts at my place are with non EU countries. So I'm fine, I couldn't give one flying proverbial.

Money is for rich people not us. Nothing will ever change.

Totally agree. Voting doesnt make a difference. Just shuffing a few deck chairs around as far as I can tell

 

[Dutto]

Does anyone else get the impression that the "Brexit Brigade":

A) Didn't expect to win?

B) Hadn't worked out what the reaction from other countries would be?

and

C) Don't know what to do next?

They all look like rabbits caught in the headlights, they all seem to be long on trotting out the same rhetoric as before; but none of them has yet to come forward with a plan of action.

Or is it just me? :whistle: :whistle:

 

[Cwrw666]

Does anyone else get the impression that the "Brexit Brigade":

A) Didn't expect to win?

B) Hadn't worked out what the reaction from other countries would be?

and

C) Don't know what to do next?

They all look like rabbits caught in the headlights, they all seem to be long on trotting out the same rhetoric as before; but none of them has yet to come forward with a plan of action.

Or is it just me? :whistle: :whistle:

Whoever takes over from Cameron will be basically destroying his own career. Lets say Johnson gets to be pm - he's supposed to negotiate a great deal with the EU who are rather more concerned with discouraging other countries from leaving rather than losing a bit of trade. And anything he does then has to be rubber stamped by parliament, the majority of whom don't want to leave the EU at all. And all the lies and misinformation are going to become apparent to everyone.

 

[ElChemist]

Its the last straw from a broken country for me. Few points to make, possibly a little cynical, but Ive never shied away from making my point.

1. The younger people of Britain voted to stay (68% of them according to the numbers I've seen). We're the ones who have to live with it, so why wasnt our voted weighted heavier? The over 70s have (Using average death ages) about 12 years to live with the massive clusterf*** they have left us (they voted 69% to leave), we have between 50 and 70 years to live with it. Thanks to all of those who chose to screw us over. Not only did they get the free education, the free school meals, the cushy jobs for life and the final salary pensions, but now they've just stuck 2 fingers up to the generation who have to live with this mess.

2. Neither of the 2 sides had a clue what would happen if a leave vote happened. It was a complete unknown. The warning signs were there from the IMF, the US President, the EU president, the BOE Boss and the vast majority of other world leaders. But no one listened. The pound dropped thru the floor on the news of the leave side winning, the FTSE dropped 300 billion quid in an hour. It recovered, but it was always going to bounce back up, thats kinda how hedge funds make their money. A "friend" on facebook, a real racist ****** who happens to be the secretary of another club I belong to posted that the FTSE was only down by 190 points come closing. 190 points is approx 55 BILLION quid. No matter who you are thats real money.

3. The "We need to take our country back" brigade make me wanna puke. From who? Who took it from us? The Polish fruit pickers who make sure you get your strawberries? The Indian nurses making sure you dont choke on your own vomit when you rock up to A&E cos you're so drunk you cant control your own head? The wonderfully well trained American and Canadian doctors who've come here cos the doctors we had all left to go to the UAE to make a bloody fortune or Australia cos the weather is so bad in the UK you cant get a tan?

I for one will not be sticking around in the wasteland with the potential leaders of the country being a choice between the man so hated by every educator in the country that he had to have extra security wherever he went to stop him getting assaulted and was so unbelievably stupid he trully believed that every school and college should be above average (serious logic fail there Gove, everything cannot be above average) or a fluffy haired muppet who likes to shag everything that moves but hasn't the first clue about politics. I've already spoken to the wife and we're planning for a move to Canada. At the very least we'll get a real winter there...

The only hope we have now is that the referendum is not legally binding, the Article 50 has not yet been written and the tories may in fact elect a leader who doesn't believe we should leave and chooses to ignore the xenophobics and the fantacists who believe there is something to take back. Oh and as for the 350 million quid a week we'll get back? We'll lose more than that to loss of trade, to export and import duties as well as the extra benefits we'll have to pay to the workers whose companies decide to take their factories and companies to the EU. The exodus will be being planned right now...

Something for those people to think about while they're tucking into their pizza, lasagne, curry or Kung Po Chicken tonight.

Apologies if anyone takes offence, but all the crap I've read simply leads me to agree with another mate.

"The public lack the understanding, detachment and details to make a decision on this scale. Its the political equivalent of asking a stranger on the street to perform brain surgery on you. You may be lucky and get a brain surgeon, but the overwhelming likelihood is that you'll get a painter, and that ain't gonna end well. This should have been left to the politicians, and they voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU. Says a lot about our country."

 

[dad_of_jon]

Bad News:
At 73 we can't get meaningful health insurance for extended visits to Europe so losing the EHIC will hit us hard!

Good News
The collapse of the GB Pound against the Euro means that we can no longer afford to go on extended visits to Europe anyway!

Cynical? Me? Never! :whistle: :whistle:

of course this means more 'temporary immagration' - a.k.a. tourists as we become a cheaper destination.

With any decision there are swings and roundabouts. For me cutting an unelected tier of government out of the process was important. we have councillors, (local) MP's, in wales AM's, and for Europe there were MEP's. 2-tier government is more than enough TYVM. government sprawl and regulation was just getting out of hand :nono:

It's almost as complicated as belguims goverment

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlwHotpl9DA[/ame]

the EU just got too big and cumbersome in my view

 

[Russ146]

Its bad being in and bad being out

So the greed driven cockroaches that make millions from others might lose a few million, oh my bleeding heart.

thats like you losing a pound coin. let the dust settle and you will find the benefits of leaving far out weigh the staying. Why are young people complaining? Now there will be less investing in London, bankers wont get multi million bonuses so house prices will fall which will follow suit across the country and the"young people" will be able to afford to buy their own home rather than a life time of buy-to-let slavery which is so shorted sighted. who wants to be paying ever increasing rent into retirement and upto the day you die?

Remember the millennium bug? Planes would fall from the sky, trains would collide and people would die in hospitals as computers shut down, what happened?

Absolutely nothing and it will be the same with brexit, once the dust has settled.

 

[MyQul]

Obviously cuz I live here, I'm finding it interesting that there's calls for London to become independant of the UK.

Passport to Pimlico anyone :lol:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The first of many to exit the gravy train.

The UK's European Commissioner Lord Hill is to stand down, saying "what is done cannot be undone" after the UK voted to leave the European Union.
In a statement, he said he did not believe it was right for him to carry on with his work as the commissioner in charge of financial services.
But he will stay on for a period of weeks to ensure an "orderly handover".
A close ally of Prime Minister David Cameron, Lord Hill had argued for the UK to remain in the EU.

 

[jceg316]

I'll chime in.

I've never voted, and I never will. What's the point?

Without sounding like a whack job, I don't believe your vote matters a jot. A handful of people control this world.

Your just a mere tax payer.

Some contracts at my place are with non EU countries. So I'm fine, I couldn't give one flying proverbial.

Money is for rich people not us. Nothing will ever change.

1 vote may seem pointless and I used to think the same thing, but I feel so much better that I voted in the last election and in this referendum. There is no party which really supports my views, Lib Dems or Green probably come close so I support either of them when I need to. It's usually Lib Dems though as Greens want to increase beer tax :-o

Anyway, voting for these fringe parties (yeah Lib Dems are pretty fringe now) isn't wasted, it's saying there are issues they focus on which you care about, more than is being discussed in mainstream parties. Whilst Greens will never get into power, it's saying "I think environmental issues are important to me, more than whatever Labour or Conservatives are talking about", and when these fringe parties start to gain some ground, the major parties start to pay attention.

Back in 2010 when there was no difference (pretty much) between Labour and Tories, UKIP started to really take off to the point Tory MPs were defecting, and the Tories started paying attention. UKIP would never get more than a handful of seats, if that, in UK parliament, but it was enough to scare the Tories into doing something about those issues.

And the Tories did: they make it hard for immigrants to come here and they proposed this referendum, despite the fact the data says we need immigrants and the EU.

TL;DR - your vote does matter, no matter how small it seems

 

[jceg316]

I would also like to add, as a born and bred Londoner, I've always wanted London to be an independent city state, maybe with Brighton as one of the satellite states.

Anyway, the referendum is not legally binding and the gov does not actually have to act upon it: http://uk.businessinsider.com/green-eu-referendum-not-legally-binding-brexit-2016-6

I'm hoping this whole referendum was Boris' "house of cards" idea to become prime minister and then not come out of Europe.

 

[MyQul]

I love the idea of an independant city states. Seeing as though most people live in urban areas I think the whole of the Uk should break up into regional/city states. Then we can all have what we like instead of one area of the country taking another area in a direction it doesn't want to go.It'll be like 14 century Italy

 

[Russ146]

I would also like to add, as a born and bred Londoner, I've always wanted London to be an independent city state, maybe with Brighton as one of the satellite states.

Anyway, the referendum is not legally binding and the gov does not actually have to act upon it: http://uk.businessinsider.com/green-eu-referendum-not-legally-binding-brexit-2016-6

I'm hoping this whole referendum was Boris' "house of cards" idea to become prime minister and then not come out of Europe.

Everybody wants to be king of the hill

Scotland, wales and so on. Nobody wants to be ruled by somebody else.

the reality is:

The two richest countries in Europe are Norway and Switzerland.
Neither are in the EU

its a no brainer just look at the rest of the EU countries all broke

Britain will thrive now

 

[MyQul]

"Artists are in shock after the vote, but we need them now more than ever"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/artists-shock-eu-referendum-vote#comments
Only the Guardian would have a peice like this in it. Luvvies. Dont you just love em :lol:

I'm fnding the whole brexit thing total popcorn. The innies are all outraged and want another referendum, the outies (leaders) are like rabbits caught in head lights and haven't got a clue what to do. The Eurocrats are telling Britain to feck off as soon as possible. I'm totally addicted to to the whole melodrama

 

[dad_of_jon]

Everybody wants to be king of the hill

Scotland, wales and so on. Nobody wants to be ruled by somebody else.


Britain will thrive now

I was happy with the UK wide level of government. The welsh assembly not so :-(

 

[BeerCat]

I am ecstatically happy. I am gonna celebrate again with more beer. Cheers.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I am ecstatically happy. I am gonna celebrate again with more beer. Cheers.

I am not at work tomorrow (i was today so no celebrating last night for me) so will join you in a virtual pint later. :

 

[jceg316]

Everybody wants to be king of the hill

Scotland, wales and so on. Nobody wants to be ruled by somebody else.

the reality is:

The two richest countries in Europe are Norway and Switzerland.
Neither are in the EU

its a no brainer just look at the rest of the EU countries all broke

Britain will thrive now

London is, scientifically speaking, centre of the universe though.

 

[BeerisGOD]

count me in for the third :smile:, and maybe a nice bit of non thrown off the boat fish for a slight blemish late supper to soak up the grog!