on my 2019 vitara I had to get top spec for all the safety kit. 44mpg on non-hybrid and it loves to tell me i'm about to crash.... My mazda cx5 was more laisse faire with its collision alert. I'm not sure which is the better system...
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Only once it as alerted me and auto braked, when travelling a narrow road and 3 cyclists approached.
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I have bought Honda Jazz Hybrid EX. Did look at Suzuki and Toyota. Suzuki dealer never attented to me and Toyota were plain idiotic rude. Very happy with Honda
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Ah, the old idiotic rude ploy to weed out the less keen customers.
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Not at all. I was in there 2 and half hours. Hard pushy sell which i listened to.
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If you want attention wear a shirt and tie - the difference is unbelievable. The Jazz would be on my short list.
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Be nice if Suzuki had answered my calls and email. Their loss.
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Pure [petrol + diesel] now down to 50.8% of the market in August, pure-electrics have now outsold diesel for three months in a row. Obviously August is always a quiet month, will be interesting to see how September goes. As an aside, Norway, which finances subsidies for electric cars with taxes on fossil-fuel ones, is now up to 72% of new sales electric, with another 20% or so hybrid, and I think I saw somewhere that they are now up to over half the entire fleet being electric.
Something to watch is different speed limits for electrics vs fossil fuels. Highways England are already experimenting with 60mph speed limits in pollution hotspots to reduce NO2 emissions, Austria already have environmental speed limits that reduce the normal 130kph (81mph) to 100kph (62mph) in places, they now have an exemption for electric/hydrogen cars that means they can go at 130kph through those zones. Grant Schapps has hinted that "electrification" might allow an 80mph limit in the UK, which presumably would look something like the Austrian system.
Something to watch is different speed limits for electrics vs fossil fuels. Highways England are already experimenting with 60mph speed limits in pollution hotspots to reduce NO2 emissions, Austria already have environmental speed limits that reduce the normal 130kph (81mph) to 100kph (62mph) in places, they now have an exemption for electric/hydrogen cars that means they can go at 130kph through those zones. Grant Schapps has hinted that "electrification" might allow an 80mph limit in the UK, which presumably would look something like the Austrian system.
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50% that is a huge drop, tbh I have been doing a bit of research into battery longevity, take the Nissan leaf there are 12 blocks on the RHS of the RHS clock in the dash this shows the condition of the battery notcits charge I looked at lots of them in my price range and evey one had from 10 bars left, these are 5 plus year old cars, I am still on the fence.
I'm glad that my driving days will be over by the time Noddy cars take over.
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To be fair it's distorted somewhat by the 20% of mild hybrids, but even so, hybrids/plug-ins/pure-electrics getting up to 30.1% is impressive.
Battery life really isn't something to be much worried about - those early Leafs were the only mainstream cars where it was even much of a worry, and even then it's more like 70-80% rather than halving.
I wouldn't mind this noddy car -
It’s time for an absolutely epic hypercar showdown! We’ve got the Ferrari SF90 going up against the all-new Rimac Nevera!
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Step one done, Honda Jazz self charging hybrid. Different to the petrol car before but decent, tech galore in it, smooth ride, that will do for 3 years and then see what economics of full electric is then
60 mpg and few negatives.
Skip to 3:19 for the drivers view.
Skip to 3:19 for the drivers view.
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Wife has just gone plug-in hybrid and she can do her commute on electric alone. The ride and refinement is just excellent, and they're definitely loading these hybrid and electric cars with all the tech vs. what you would get as standard in a traditional ICE car.
I'm sold.
I'm sold.
They are probably loading them with gadgets to keep the prices high.
The more gadgets, the more to go wrong or become obsolete but it appears from the adverts thats how they sell cars these days - out gadget the competition.
Shame, when electric is potentially far more reliable & long lasting that internal combustion.
I think it will be a while before we get no frills, does what it says on the tin electric cars. (I suspect small vans will get there first)
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Nearly all the features on the jazz are safety tech icluding centre airbag between driver and passenger. That is no bad thing. There are simpler models on trim outside of safety but we went comfort and luxury also on EX trim because we like that
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I was going to say that most 'gadgets' are now standard safety equipment that is required on all new cars.
The extras with electric or hybrid cars are information on performance, which is standard in these type cars
I've certainly found that most of the gadgets are of great use, and have been surprised at how long it's taken for them to become the norm in cars.
There are too many things holding them back and they need to be addressed if the want your avarage working class family to go fill electric EV,
1 The price of new EV's is way too much second hand ones are getting more affordable nut then you start to think about battery life and cost of replacement
2 Charging if you do not have a drive.
If you live in a terraced street you cannot guarantee parking outside your house so you have no means of charging, I believe paying for a quick charge in a car park is not much less than what you would pay for petrol for the same milage.
3 People's attitude to EV's, they need to show all the sceptics that you can live with an electric vehicle especially if you have a place where you can keep it charged for times when you may need to do a longer journey than the cars range.
