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Citation required. He was dead. He also retired in 1991.2016 study by Kunze and Co came to the same conclusion.
https://brauwelt.com/en/news/people...stry-mourns-the-loss-of-wolfgang-kunze-622541
Citation required. He was dead. He also retired in 1991.2016 study by Kunze and Co came to the same conclusion.
Check on research gate, I don't know if it was Anton Kunze which it could well be.Citation required. He was dead. He also retired in 1991.
https://brauwelt.com/en/news/people...stry-mourns-the-loss-of-wolfgang-kunze-622541
Or, never happened. Usual BS.Check on research gate, I don't know if it was Anton Kunze which it could well be.
Or, never happened. Usual BS.
Agreed.Its the amount of hops that need to be used where the wastage lies. It isn't just one dose, it's several. The reasons were for chelating the metal ions in the wort. Nothing to do with flavour.
Would you like a chip? ... Nah you have a bag of them already!Or, never happened. Usual BS.
I agree, I was clarifying what is was used for as someone had stated it was used in bygone days, Has any research been done on any flavour I have never seen any and I think it would have been mentioned in the paper the only mention was it made the beer more bitter. This was having passed through paper filters a couple of times.Agreed.
But there seem to be two quite separate goals and the Omega claims (at least in the article) have nothing to do with binding metal ions. It's Omega' s goal that interests me. Janish has interesting things to stay about metal ions particularly manganese in unmalted oats, but that's a different issue.
Lüers [67] mentioned in 1950 that the addition of
hops to the mash is a ‘substantial waste’. This seems to be valid
as related to the hop bitter acid utilization; yet, when taking the
results from this study into consideration, this statement has to
be qualified again as the positive effects on beer flavor stability
were not known.
It seems the only research is that, which I'm doing at the momentI agree, I was clarifying what is was used for as someone had stated it was used in bygone days, Has any research been done on any flavour I have never seen any and I think it would have been mentioned in the paper the only mention was it made the beer more bitter. This was having passed through paper filters a couple of times.
We've established that neither the late Wolfgang Kunze or Anton Kunze or Thomas Kunz, made the claim. So, I'll stick with BS.Would you like a chip? ... Nah you have a bag of them already!
Free world, do what you like. Very easy to download the file from Research Gate. Well it is for most people.We've established that neither the late Wolfgang Kunze or Anton Kunze or Thomas Kunz, made the claim. So, I'll stick with BS.
Post #29. There's this quote directly from it. So, yes it is easy.Free world, do what you like. Very easy to download the file from Research Gate. Well it is for most people.
Exactly, but don't be put off by what they did find. Just carry on doing it. I won't bother.Post #29. There's this quote directly from it. So, yes it is easy.
Lüers [67] mentioned in 1950 that the addition of
hops to the mash is a ‘substantial waste’. This seems to be valid
as related to the hop bitter acid utilization; yet, when taking the
results from this study into consideration, this statement has to
be qualified again as the positive effects on beer flavor stability
were not known.
They didn't find anything to be put off by, you made your own conclusion up.Exactly, but don't be put off by what they did find.
With the same outcome, further research is needed. But one home brewer reckons it's great and the sheep follow.Research is ongoing, such as this from 2023.
"The findings suggest that natural chelators have the potential to enhance beer flavour stability by diminishing radical formation during brewing and lowering the amount of transition metals and aldehydes in the final product."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...kQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw27Qsm0r_a6uEIMZ_mmjLRo
Echoes my experience.
So what was the final outcome? Please let us knowThey didn't find anything to be put off by, you made your own conclusion up.
Foxy, says no.
Lets carry on with open minds. What's to lose other than a few quids worth of hops.
I don't know. Yet. Follow the research, do your own experiment. Don't listen to Antipodean idiots that invent citations, to discourage you.So what was the final outcome? Please let us know
Have a look at the 20022 post.Probrewer thread from 2009.![]()
With the same outcome, further research is needed. But one home brewer reckons it's great and the sheep follow.
All the Pro Brewers are falling over themselves to get into 'Mash Hopping'
https://discussions.probrewer.com/f...ailable-for-sponsorship/7147-hops-in-the-mash
So what was the final outcome? Please let us know
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