water. (re-titled THT)

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happyhoppytaff said:
Aleman said:
happyhoppytaff said:
the wise old home brew shop head told me yesterday that THT is due to the presence of invertase, created when sucrose is broken down to glucose.
What a load of bollocks!
to the point. care to elucidate
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Oops . . . Sorry had to run out and take No 1 Daughter to school. Son decided to be helpful and post my unfinshed reply :oops:

It can't be down to the existance of that enzyme . . . it's just as likely to be due to the presence of maltase or any of the other glycoside hydrolase . . or all of them. . . . And in fact that would also explain why you do get THT in premium 2 can kits, and indeed in kits made from dry extract - although at a much lower level and frequency. . . . I've also noted it in extract brews . . . in all cases the kits have been hanging around in retailers / wholesalers for some time, and I feel very strongly that THT is down to 2 things . . .

Old Extract - Whenever I've used kits with long expiry dates and Fresh Extract I don't get any THT
Poor quality / old yeast - Leading to a general poor fermentation.

I don't think it's fair to blame retailers for 'old' kits though as it's the manufacturers who put the expiry dates on them, and technically they are not going 'off' so they get away with it. Good suppliers use much shorter BBE dates though Design A Brew Range is only 12 months from canning . . . and the York Brewery kits were the same. I was told by the manufacturer that they could put a 36month BBE date on (like other manufacturers) but decided against this to ensure that brewers got the freshest extract possible.
 
What a great thread, I thought I was doing something wrong with my beers as I have had THT with all mine up to now. I had it really bad with a Milestone Black Pearl stout I did in January to the point where it was quite vile. Still drank it though :lol:
 
If that were the case, then any brew with sugar should have THT right? I don't taste it in commercial Belgian brews and they use sugar. I don't taste it in my AG home brewed beers that use sugar either. It seems to me to be connected to liquid malt extract but I have no empirical data to back that up. Pretty sure it has nothing to do with invertase though! :roll:
 
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