Toasting pale malt

[MashBag]

I only want a few grams, of a slightly darker malt.

Must be able to toast my own.

Had anyone done this? Is there a time/temp chart?

 

[jof]

Lol, I remember my dad doing this on or gas cooker grill back in the 70's
No idea how successful it was as I was just a kid at the time.

 

[foxy]

I only want a few grams, of a slightly darker malt.

Must be able to toast my own.

Had anyone done this? Is there a time/temp chart?

Yes, but if you want darker you will have to add a darker malt like chocolate or roast.
Toasted ale malt just adds to the complexity of the flavour. 500 gram for 15 minutes @177C on a baking tray.

 

[Agentgonzo]

I only want a few grams, of a slightly darker malt.

Must be able to toast my own.

Had anyone done this? Is there a time/temp chart?

There are some basic brewing radio episodes about home roasting. Sounds fairly simple. Chuck in the oven, shake regularly,, expect a fair bit of smoke

 

[MashBag]

Yeah I guessed it would be along those lines. Done similar with oak and there are toasting tables. Trying to find similar.

 

[An Ankoù]

This is what you need. From Harrison, Old British Beers and How To Make Them, 2003, Durden Park Beer Circle.

 

[MashBag]

You beauty, thank you.

Never thought of going back in time to find it.

 

[peterpiper]

Fairly usefull guide at Roasting malt

I needed 110g of roast rye 500EBC. TMM was out of stock, so I substituted malted rye, toasted at 200°C for 60min, turning three times.
Resulting brew, Rongoteus god of rye (Nordic brewing) seemed to be fine, little different to batches using purchased roast rye.

Normal roast rye, is unmalted grain roasted. So some difference should be expected if roasting malted grain.

 

[MashBag]

OK the gauntlet is down. I need to create 4kg of pale malt from local barley.
Which I collected from a farming buddy.

Edited.

 

[Agentgonzo]

OK the gauntlet is down. I need to pale malt 4kg of local barley.
Which I collected from a farmer.

What price (if at all) does the farmer get for a kilo of pale malt... Given it's about £2 in a homebrew shop.

 

[MashBag]

About 20p / kg for raw barley (unmalted)

 

[Agentgonzo]

About 20p / kg for raw barley (unmalted)

Thought it would be something like that. At 4kg are you going to try to malt it yourself, or just toast it and add to a larger brew as a speciality malt? 4kg is pretty much enough for a 23L batch

 

[MashBag]

I want to malt the whole batch.

Any ideas welcome

 

[Agentgonzo]

I want to malt the whole batch.

Any ideas welcome

Wet it, warm it, leave it on your garage floor for a few days and let us know how you get on!

 

[MashBag]

Yeeees

Trying to find a copy of the "British Beers and How To Make Them" from above.

 

[foxy]

Yeeees

Trying to find a copy of the "British Beers and How To Make Them" from above.

I only want a few grams, of a slightly darker malt.

Must be able to toast my own.

Had anyone done this? Is there a time/temp chart?

Are you malting, toasting, or roasting?

 

[MashBag]

Good point.

When I started this thread I wanted a handful of a darker malt. (toasting)

Yesterday I collected a few barrels of fresh harvested barley from a farming buddy.

He asked me to make a crate of beer with it. So now I need to malt 4kg and then toast it (pale malt).

So I think I need info.. the necessary times and temps to malt and roast and toast.

https://www.instructables.com/Malting-Barley-for-Homebrewing/

This is the best I have found so far.

 

[jof]

Can't you just test malting on your first attempt & add some crystal malt for colour?
Then step up.to test toasting/roasting.

 

[peebee]

Yeeees

Trying to find a copy of the "British Beers and How To Make Them" from above.

I wonder if they've given up reprinting it? Their web site lets you download it now, but I'm not sure if the old versions had the "make your own" brown and amber? It's not "real" brown and amber, but back in the 1970s you'd be luck to find pale malt! I understand roasting your own makes very fine aromas and flavours (@Cwrw666 is a fan I believe).

https://durdenparkbeer.org.uk/index.php/product-category/download_booklet/

[EDIT: The 1993 reprint costs more ... all of £4.40! So, I guess it's more "complete" than the 1976 original?]

 

[foxy]

Good point.

When I started this thread I wanted a handful of a darker malt. (toasting)

Yesterday I collected a few barrels of fresh harvested barley from a farming buddy.

He asked me to make a crate of beer with it. So now I need to malt 4kg and then toast it (pale malt).

So I think I need info.. the necessary times and temps to malt and roast and toast.

https://www.instructables.com/Malting-Barley-for-Homebrewing/

This is the best I have found so far.

You could try and find something about brewing with green barley, a lot of work has been done on using raw barley due to the cost involved with malting.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jib.319