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One good thing about being a home brewer is I don't need to take any risk for a hand pulled real ale, just a few steps into my garage.
 
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Is there any evidence that crowded beaches are spreading Covid? Being outdoors surely lessens the risk. I wonder if the chattering classes are overreacting to the outrage of the news media? Or vice-versa?

I hope not or my belguim trip in 2 weeks will be at risk. 1 meter outside is safer than 1 meter indoors but is 2 meters indoors safer than 1 meter outdoors?
 
If you catch it you will give it to members of your family they will not get to decide for themselves.
I must disagree.

The risks are very low in the highlands. If I catch it and observe precautions the risk of my wife catching it is very low too. She is young and healthy. But it is a personal decision. The government in Scotland will allow public eateries to open when the risk is assessed to be low. I'm very keen to get out and support local businesses.
 
NEARLY 700 people have now been fined by Cumbria Police for flouting lockdown.

New statistics place the county in the top ten for the number of fines issued nationally by police.

The force cited people travelling for social gatherings and travelling into the Lake District before those restrictions were relaxed as examples of breaches that led to 686 fines.
Among those to have flouted the rules was a woman in her 40s who travelled more than a mile from her home to to Barrow’s Parade Street to confront someone about a Facebook post, police revealed.

Between March 27 and June 22, 15,856 fixed penalty fines for lockdown breaches were handed out by officers, according to the National Police Chiefs’ Council.

NPCC chair Martin Hewitt said: “Since lockdown restrictions began to ease the number of fines issued has seen a sustained fall across the country.

“Our approach of engaging with the public, explaining the regulations in place and encouraging them to do the right thing will continue.

“Officers have used their common sense and discretion to take in to account people’s individual circumstances.

“We will only enforce as a last resort, against those who are in clear breach of the regulations.

"Behind each fine is a case where someone has failed to listen and do the right thing.”

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/1855...e-cumbria-fined-lockdown-breaches/?ref=twtrec
 
I must disagree.

The risks are very low in the highlands. If I catch it and observe precautions the risk of my wife catching it is very low too. She is young and healthy. But it is a personal decision. The government in Scotland will allow public eateries to open when the risk is assessed to be low. I'm very keen to get out and support local businesses.

You can carry it before you get symptoms by the time you know you have it its too late.

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You can carry it before you get symptoms by the time you know you have it its too late..

Not everyone who catches it passes it on, that's why cases are declining. The risk of catching it here is already low. and if I catch it the risk of passing it to my wife is low. The total risk is a low number multiplied by a low number, hence even smaller. Most people with no symptoms are not infectious. Probably.
We have to move on sooner or later. We neither of us have any risk factors and are under 65; she's under 50 - just!. I'll take my chances. But not until Sturgeon says to.
 
Ill take my chance

Why risk putting your wife in danger you keep saying she is young being under 50 but that means nothing she could still die if she got it (however small you think that risk is) do you really need to go into a pub so soon after they open.
 
I'll be no where near them when they open as my wife is severe Asthmatic and has been cocooned since this started and every time I go out the door I have to be thinking of her all the time and be careful and wary as well as wearing ppe.

I miss going to the pub and eating out in restaurants but I’m not going anywhere near these places at the moment, not worth the risk. As @Chippy_Tea said, you don’t know who’s handled the food/drink/cutlery etc before you drink or eat the stuff. Same with takeaways.

The thing about COVID that bothers me the most is the risk of coming into contact with others who are infected but are totally asymptomatic. Easy to avoid those coughing and spluttering but not possible with the asymptomatic person sitting two metres away.

The next bothersome aspect of it is not knowing how my body will cope with the infection should I fall ill. I’ve no known underlying health issues and am a fairly fit and healthy non-smoker so in theory I might have a mild reaction to the virus. But COVID doesn’t seem to work like that.

And if I contracted it then I’d be responsible for passing it on to others in my household.

Not worth the risk asad.
 
Those are my thoughts Falco.

I guess i have been lucky as my life hasn't changed much during the pandemic i am a key worker along with my wife and son so i am not climbing the walls and dying (on pun intended) for the pubs and eateries to open for a bit of a social interaction i can sympathise with those who have been stuck in the house for the best part of 100 days i don't know what my thoughts on going to the pub would be if i had been in that situation.

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Why risk putting your wife in danger you keep saying she is young being under 50 but that means nothing she could still die if she got it (however small you think that risk is) do you really need to go into a pub so soon after they open.
You have to live with some risk or you would never leave the house. It is up to each of us to make that balance.
 
You have to live with some risk or you would never leave the house. It is up to each of us to make that balance.

We all take a risk every time we leave our houses but we have the option to keep the risk low if we so choose you have decided going to the pub is a risk worth taking i sincerely hope its a risk you don't regret in the future.
 
I'm not going to go to the pub or restaurants for ages yet, probably until the whole thing passes. I'm not worried about my health considering my age, health, blood group etc but bollocks to passing it on to others unknowingly, even if there is a lowered risk of it happening.

Can't wait until we can go more than five miles to exercise though, my local parks are nice but I want to go up some hills.
 
The only way you’ll get me in a pub in the near future is for a pint of vaccine and a bag of dry roasted Dexamethasone!
 
Not saying I am looking to go gung ho on life as I am still being very cautious but I dont think it will ever pass I think we have to co exist.

Talking to my ex like I said a few pages back she jus thinks it will settle into a normal way of life like normal corona virii weaker and more vulernable people will probably need yearly jabs but the rest of us carry on kids in particular will need to help a longer term build up of immunity from herding and carryog on with life as normal.

Yes covid kills anybody without underlying conditions but so does most other viruses and even the norma flu does that. THe problem is that is pushed to the front of what we are seeing.

Not playing it down whatsoever but do think we will need to inspire get back to a normal way of living rather than spend the rest of our lives living in fear or hope for a magic bullet.
 
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