The Coronavirus thread.

[MyQul]

Agreed. In fact, I have spoken over the last few months with several colleagues who want to get out. It's very sad as I can honestly say that we give everything to our patients and our working day.

Some of your colleague have quite literally given all (i.e. their lives). No wonder you want to get out

 

[Brew_DD2]

Exactly this. I have worked in the NHS as a clinician since 2008. My wife is also an NHS critical care nurse. Sadly, we are pretty much decided on relocating, downsizing and getting out of healthcare entirely.

I'm really sad to hear that. I work as a District Nurse, but have only been at it for a few years. There is so much talent and good people within the NHS. The way that new ways of working have been developed in such a short space of time has been incredible, but unfortunately I too have started to feel disillusioned with how it operates on a day-to-day basis. It is easy to point fingers at managers etc. but there is no getting away from the reality that there aren't enough resources.

Social care is even more knackered given the massive cuts to local council budgets, which in-turn has massive consequences to to hospital beds etc.

There is only so much clinicians can do. I doubt I'll be nursing for another 10 years, never mind until retirement. **** doing this for another 35 years.

 

[MyQul]

I wonder what future generations (that's if the virus doesn't mutate and kill us all in a zombe apocalypse) will call this pandemic. We call the first world war (or WW1) that because we know there was another one a couple of decades later. But the generation that fought and lived through it called it The Great War or the War to end all wars

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I wonder what future generations (that's if the virus doesn't mutate and kill us all in a zombe apocalypse)

I wonder what we will call it, by the time a vaccine is made the death figures could be frightening I posted last night that it looks like we will have to get used to living with it amongst us as staying locked down for 12 months or lolger is not going to work, there may be trouble ahead.

 

[MyQul]

I wonder what we will call it, by the time a vaccine is made the death figures could be frightening I posted last night that it looks like we will have to get used to living with it amongst us as staying locked down for 12 months or lolger is not going to work, there may be trouble ahead.

Did a bit of reading/googling this morning and there's no guarantee of a vaccine and even if we do manage to make one, it could take years, Because we've never sucessfully made a vaccine for a cornonavirus before Plently of vaccines for other virus types but not coronavirus

"For those pinning their hopes on a COVID-19 vaccine to return life to normal, an Australian expert in vaccine development has a reality check — it probably won't happen soon.

The reality is that this particular coronavirus is posing challenges that scientists haven't dealt with before, according to Ian Frazer from the University of Queensland.

Professor Frazer was involved in the successful development of the vaccine for the human papilloma virus which causes cervical cancer — a vaccine which took years of work to develop"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

 

[Chippy_Tea]

So we cannot make a vaccine and cannot stay locked down for months on end are we going to walk the streets in masks.

 

[MyQul]

So we cannot make a vaccine and cannot stay locked down for months on end are we going to walk the streets in masks.

Hopefully we'll make a vaccine but it could take years. From another article I read "The mumps vaccine—considered the fastest ever approved—took four years to go from collecting viral samples to licensing a drug in 1967."
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...us-vaccine-could-take-way-longer-than-a-year/I think there's talk of possible rolling lock downs. Perhaps as the virus hits us in waves/re-infections we have lockdowns when things are at their worst. Then the lockdown is eased off as the virus eases off?

 

[MyQul]

Co-incidently enough the 5pm breifing have just announced launching a, "vaccine task force". I note they havent mentioned any of the above

 

[chuffer]

So we cannot make a vaccine and cannot stay locked down for months on end are we going to walk the streets in masks.

Staggered exposure I guess - ultimately (in the wider context of evolution) we all need to be exposed to it and develop (some level of) immunity to it, it just needs to be done in a way that won't overwhelm the NHS, so a gradual relaxation of the lockdown over time perhaps?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I think there's talk of possible rolling lock downs. Perhaps as the virus hits us in waves/re-infections we have lockdowns when things are at their worst. Then the lockdown is eased off as the virus eases off?

Staggered exposure I guess - ultimately (in the wider context of evolution) we all need to be exposed to it and develop (some level of) immunity to it, it just needs to be done in a way that won't overwhelm the NHS, so a gradual relaxation of the lockdown over time perhaps?

Looks like thats the only way forward and its going to be a bitch to get people to stick to.

 

[MyQul]

MrsMQ works as a press manager for a charity. She tells me all the charities have cottoned on to Captain Tom's heroic feats and are asking people to do laps of their garden on London Marathon day to raise money for them

 

[Chippy_Tea]

A good news story on 5 live today.

I will give the very cut down version.

Blokes wife gets Covid-19 and is taken to hospital by ambulance, deteriorates rapidly over next 24 hours and husband told multiple organs failing and no chance of surviving, husband and young kids are allowed to say final goodbye and after husband asks doctor if there is anything he could do even if experimental, doctor said he had heard of some people reacting well to being placed on their stomachs for several hours husband said do it, 48 hours later doctor called to tell him she had improved a little and several weeks later she is doing well.

Doctor told husband she was the poorlyest person in the whole hospital the day they visited.

 

[Rodcx500z]

Is this Mr Trump playing with photo shop Pictures of the week: April 17

 

[Leon103]

It looks like most of us could do with a vitamin D boost if thoise figures are anything to go by, i take a daily multivitamin and have for a few years the D is only 5 μg which it would seem is quite low, i suppose as i work outside a lot i may not need more.

A couple of years ago I got to ride with a pro cycle team. We had a talk with their nutritional partner, a well known company. The owner is a nutritionist and we were asking questions about vitamins etc. He said that in the UK you will never get enough vitamin D because the lack of sun. He said if you took one supplement it should be vitamin D. Taken it everyday since.

 

[Leon103]

A good news story on 5 live today.

I will give the very cut down version.

Blokes wife gets Covid-19 and is taken to hospital by ambulance, deteriorates rapidly over next 24 hours and husband told multiple organs failing and no chance of surviving, husband and young kids are allowed to say final goodbye and after husband asks doctor if there is anything he could do even if experimental, doctor said he had heard of some people reacting well to being placed on their stomachs for several hours husband said do it, 48 hours later doctor called to tell him she had improved a little and several weeks later she is doing well.

Doctor told husband she was the poorlyest person in the whole hospital the day they visited.

I thought this is common knowledge for pneumonia type illnesses. With the lungs towards the back, by laying in your back you are preventing the small airways to open which causes/makes it worse.

There is a video with exercises you can do to open the small airways.

 

[Bevvied]

I've got myself a new set of togs for when the pubs open

 

[chuffer]

I thought this is common knowledge for pneumonia type illnesses. With the lungs towards the back, by laying in your back you are preventing the small airways to open which causes/makes it worse.

There is a video with exercises you can do to open the small airways.

Yeh this is old school....also used as therapy for people with cystic fibrosis

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I've got myself a new set of togs for when the pubs open

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You are going to need a funnel.

 

[Bevvied]

You are going to need a funnel.

Seriously though, is anyone else missing time with mates more than the actual pub?

 

[Stephenj]

Seriously though, is anyone else missing time with mates more than the actual pub?

Aye. Sometime I didn't even bother going to the match and just stayed on the drink with the lads. Football at St James' Park is 90 mins spoiling a good day out.