So would i but we cannot change the past lets hope doing it now will help lower the predicted 120,000 deaths.
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So would i but we cannot change the past lets hope doing it now will help lower the predicted 120,000 deaths.
I wonder if this was more to do with the fact they did not have enough masks for the health/care workers?
I have a feeling that will have been the case.
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I'm at a loss to understand why anyone would object to wearing a mask when circulating in public. It gives some protection (not much) to the wearer, but keeps a lot of the watery spray, from the breath, coughs, sneezes and farts of an infected person inside the mask and not as an atomised mist of infectious vapour in the air. Anything, a tee-shirt, a scarf, a condom over the head etc etc would help reduce the amount of virus an infected person puts into the atmosphere. Why would anyone want the choice of doing this? It's like wanting the choice to drive a heavily polluting car or smoke in a public place, but more so.
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Remember when seat belts became compulsory some people said they wouldn't wear them. Not an issue today is it. Make it advisory or optional and they won't do it make it law and they will comply.
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The big thing is getting it to be second nature, when I get into a car the first thing I do is reach for the seat belt. Ideally this is what wearing a mask before you go shopping will become.
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Call it a U turn or whatever you like people were not wearing masks in the supermarkets (as i and other members have posted a few times here) so maybe they decided there are too many ignorant and selfish people ignoring the request so its time to force them before the second wave hits, they have been accused of not acting quick enough yet they have changed the original decision in two days and will still be slated for it.
People are still avoiding going to the shops as they have kept away from strangers for over 100 days if the government do not encourage us to go to the shops again (by masking the same people feel safer in the shops) people will carry on buying online and our town centres will be ghost towns, shops will close and jobs will be lost.
I was listening to a podcast earlier -
Gove - I don't think masks should be mandatory we are encouraging the public to wear masks when they are in an environment where they'll be mixing with others and where ventilation may not be as good as it might, its basic courtesy and good manners to wear a mask if you are for example in a shop.
Marr - But we don't need a law to do that?
Gove - "No we trust peoples good sense" - then the podcast stops.
Fast forward two days -
Hancock - Last month we made face coverings mandatory on public transport and in NHS settings this has given the public confidence to go on public transport and to visit hospitals giving people protection when they are unable to keep two meters apart particularly from people they do not normally come into contact with, under the new rule people not wearing a mask in shops will be fined in line with public transport ..............
People are still avoiding going to the shops as they have kept away from strangers for over 100 days if the government do not encourage us to go to the shops again (by masking the same people feel safer in the shops) people will carry on buying online and our town centres will be ghost towns, shops will close and jobs will be lost.
I was listening to a podcast earlier -
Gove - I don't think masks should be mandatory we are encouraging the public to wear masks when they are in an environment where they'll be mixing with others and where ventilation may not be as good as it might, its basic courtesy and good manners to wear a mask if you are for example in a shop.
Marr - But we don't need a law to do that?
Gove - "No we trust peoples good sense" - then the podcast stops.
Fast forward two days -
Hancock - Last month we made face coverings mandatory on public transport and in NHS settings this has given the public confidence to go on public transport and to visit hospitals giving people protection when they are unable to keep two meters apart particularly from people they do not normally come into contact with, under the new rule people not wearing a mask in shops will be fined in line with public transport ..............
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4 months ago the scientific and medical community thought face coverings unnecessary and didn't need to be compulsory they have changed this view and the government have followed the advice and made them compulsory.
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A man who called Coronavirus fake news and who thought he was invincible discusses what happened.
More than 50% of the county’s COVID-19 cases are in the 20-44 age group, including Jimmy Flores, who admits he didn’t take the virus seriously until he contracted it. Here is his warning to others.
More than 50% of the county’s COVID-19 cases are in the 20-44 age group, including Jimmy Flores, who admits he didn’t take the virus seriously until he contracted it. Here is his warning to others.
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We discussed this at work earlier and you wouldn't believe the number of people who still think face covering is to prevent you from catching it not to stop you spreading it.
I'd say it's a convenient myth, in that people are much more likely to wear them if they think there's something in it for them, whereas "for the collective good" is a much harder sell. Right now, I don't care what they think, as long as they wear them...
Blackburn facing 'rising tide' of coronavirus cases
Blackburn with Darwen is facing a "rising tide" of coronavirus cases centred on terraced houses with high numbers of occupants, the area's public health director has said.
The Lancashire town brought in extra restrictions on Tuesday following a spike in infections.
Prof Dominic Harrison said the majority of new cases were in the south Asian community.
He said a phased lockdown could happen if the rise was not halted by 27 July.
For the next month, the 148,000 people who live within the Lancashire authority have been told to observe the new rules in a bid to avoid a Leicester-style local lockdown.
However, Blackburn with Darwen's public health director Prof Harrison said they would "reverse the measures one by one not a full lockdown like Leicester".
The new measures include tighter limits on visitors from another household, and officials have called on people to bump elbows in place of handshakes and hugs.
Residents are being told to wear cloth face coverings in all enclosed public spaces, including workplaces, libraries, museums, health centres and hair and beauty salons.
"We have we had 114 cases in the last two weeks and 97 are south Asian which is why we want to minimise household contact," Prof Harrison said.
"What we are seeing from looking at the postcode data in the last two weeks is a single house being infected and and the whole household becoming infected creating household clusters in part of the town."
He said it was causing "rising tide events that they are mainly in south Asian areas and areas with a high number of terraced houses and occupied by four or more five people".
Full article - Blackburn facing 'rising tide' of Covid-19 cases
Blackburn with Darwen is facing a "rising tide" of coronavirus cases centred on terraced houses with high numbers of occupants, the area's public health director has said.
The Lancashire town brought in extra restrictions on Tuesday following a spike in infections.
Prof Dominic Harrison said the majority of new cases were in the south Asian community.
He said a phased lockdown could happen if the rise was not halted by 27 July.
For the next month, the 148,000 people who live within the Lancashire authority have been told to observe the new rules in a bid to avoid a Leicester-style local lockdown.
However, Blackburn with Darwen's public health director Prof Harrison said they would "reverse the measures one by one not a full lockdown like Leicester".
The new measures include tighter limits on visitors from another household, and officials have called on people to bump elbows in place of handshakes and hugs.
Residents are being told to wear cloth face coverings in all enclosed public spaces, including workplaces, libraries, museums, health centres and hair and beauty salons.
"We have we had 114 cases in the last two weeks and 97 are south Asian which is why we want to minimise household contact," Prof Harrison said.
"What we are seeing from looking at the postcode data in the last two weeks is a single house being infected and and the whole household becoming infected creating household clusters in part of the town."
He said it was causing "rising tide events that they are mainly in south Asian areas and areas with a high number of terraced houses and occupied by four or more five people".
Full article - Blackburn facing 'rising tide' of Covid-19 cases
Scotland has seen the biggest daily rise in new confirmed cases of Covid-19 in almost a month.
The Scottish government said 21 cases had been detected in the last 24 hours - eight of them within NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde.
It is the biggest daily increase since 21 June.
However, Scotland's national clinical director, Jason Leitch, said he expected to see "day-to-day variation" in the number of new cases.
In addition to the Glasgow and Clyde cases, there were five new cases in NHS Lothian with the rest spread around seven other health boards.
Mr Leitch told BBC Scotland that he did not believe the new cases were part of a cluster.
"I expect day-to-day variation and the next thing I look at is the spread around the country" he said.
"So 21 in one small town would worry me much more than 21 spread around the country - and these 21 are spread around the country."
Mr Leitch said he was confident in Scotland's test and protect system and also pointed out that about 16,500 tests has been carried out on Friday and so a rise in the number of positive results could also be expected.
Deputy First Minister John Swinney tweeted that the 21 new positive cases were a reminder of the "danger still out there".
The percentage of tests coming back positive remains low in Scotland and has been under 1% since the end of May.
The World Health Organisation says that one measure which can indicate whether an epidemic is under control is whether, with a comprehensive testing system, less than 5% of samples return a positive for Covid-19 over two weeks.
The Scottish government also confirmed that no new deaths were registered in Scotland following a positive test for the virus, meaning that only one death in the last 10 days has been recorded using this measure.
The number of patients in hospital with confirmed Covid-19 fell from 316 to 305, with just three of them in intensive care units.
The Scottish government said 21 cases had been detected in the last 24 hours - eight of them within NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde.
It is the biggest daily increase since 21 June.
However, Scotland's national clinical director, Jason Leitch, said he expected to see "day-to-day variation" in the number of new cases.
In addition to the Glasgow and Clyde cases, there were five new cases in NHS Lothian with the rest spread around seven other health boards.
Mr Leitch told BBC Scotland that he did not believe the new cases were part of a cluster.
"I expect day-to-day variation and the next thing I look at is the spread around the country" he said.
"So 21 in one small town would worry me much more than 21 spread around the country - and these 21 are spread around the country."
Mr Leitch said he was confident in Scotland's test and protect system and also pointed out that about 16,500 tests has been carried out on Friday and so a rise in the number of positive results could also be expected.
Deputy First Minister John Swinney tweeted that the 21 new positive cases were a reminder of the "danger still out there".
The percentage of tests coming back positive remains low in Scotland and has been under 1% since the end of May.
The World Health Organisation says that one measure which can indicate whether an epidemic is under control is whether, with a comprehensive testing system, less than 5% of samples return a positive for Covid-19 over two weeks.
The Scottish government also confirmed that no new deaths were registered in Scotland following a positive test for the virus, meaning that only one death in the last 10 days has been recorded using this measure.
The number of patients in hospital with confirmed Covid-19 fell from 316 to 305, with just three of them in intensive care units.
Coronavirus: Blackburn with Darwen 'overtaking Leicester for new cases'
Blackburn with Darwen is overtaking Leicester as England's coronavirus hotspot, according to official figures.
The Lancashire borough recorded the highest infection rate, with 79.2 cases per 100,000 people in the week up to 17 July, Public Health England said.
Cases have doubled in the last week, with 118 confirmed, compared with 63 in the previous week.
The latest figures are subject to daily revision, but they reflect the position on Sunday night.
New measures to curb the spread of Covid-19 in Blackburn with Darwen have already been introduced after a spike.
New cases in Leicester, where there is a local lockdown, have fallen to a rate of 77.7, with 276 new infections, compared with 429 the previous week.
Analysis: Daniel Wainwright, BBC England Data Unit
The data on new cases of coronavirus is published every afternoon, and that means new results for previous days are being added in all the time.
So far, looking at the week up to Friday, Blackburn with Darwen has recorded twice the number of cases it had in the previous week, while cases in Leicester - which is in a localised lockdown - appear to be falling.
Last Wednesday, both areas recorded 35 new cases. However, with Leicester having a population over twice the size of Blackburn with Darwen, that gave the Lancashire borough a higher rate of new cases per 100,000 residents.
Whether Blackburn with Darwen takes the top slot from Leicester should become clearer over the next day or two.
Prof Dominic Harrison, public health director of Blackburn with Darwen Council, warned that cases would continue to rise.
He said: "We should be concerned the figures have gone up, but I entirely expected them to and I expect them to rise again this week."
"We would only use those powers as a very, very last resort," he said. "We've had good co-operation, so I would be very reluctant to use the powers."
At the weekend it was revealed that contact tracers had reached only about half of Covid-19 contacts in the area.
Blackburn with Darwen is overtaking Leicester as England's coronavirus hotspot, according to official figures.
The Lancashire borough recorded the highest infection rate, with 79.2 cases per 100,000 people in the week up to 17 July, Public Health England said.
Cases have doubled in the last week, with 118 confirmed, compared with 63 in the previous week.
The latest figures are subject to daily revision, but they reflect the position on Sunday night.
New measures to curb the spread of Covid-19 in Blackburn with Darwen have already been introduced after a spike.
New cases in Leicester, where there is a local lockdown, have fallen to a rate of 77.7, with 276 new infections, compared with 429 the previous week.
Analysis: Daniel Wainwright, BBC England Data Unit
The data on new cases of coronavirus is published every afternoon, and that means new results for previous days are being added in all the time.
So far, looking at the week up to Friday, Blackburn with Darwen has recorded twice the number of cases it had in the previous week, while cases in Leicester - which is in a localised lockdown - appear to be falling.
Last Wednesday, both areas recorded 35 new cases. However, with Leicester having a population over twice the size of Blackburn with Darwen, that gave the Lancashire borough a higher rate of new cases per 100,000 residents.
Whether Blackburn with Darwen takes the top slot from Leicester should become clearer over the next day or two.
Prof Dominic Harrison, public health director of Blackburn with Darwen Council, warned that cases would continue to rise.
He said: "We should be concerned the figures have gone up, but I entirely expected them to and I expect them to rise again this week."
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"We would only use those powers as a very, very last resort," he said. "We've had good co-operation, so I would be very reluctant to use the powers."
At the weekend it was revealed that contact tracers had reached only about half of Covid-19 contacts in the area.
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I wore a mask a few times on hols as necessary and most of the time found it hard to breathe through. The worst cases being climbing 6 decks on the harwich to hook of holland ferry. and taking the stairs to our room on the 3rd floor of our hotel on the way back. We had the opportuninty to play indoor crazy golf but wearing masks was required so we decided not to bother. went for a long walk in the forest we were staying at instead. No mask and lots of oxygen from the trees and plenty of social distancing. So It looks like I'm unable to cope with wearing one and making any concerted effort 
- So i'll be avoiding shops and supermarkets as much as possible. Click and collect is the way for me in the future.
- So i'll be avoiding shops and supermarkets as much as possible. Click and collect is the way for me in the future.
I just stopped watching news altogether after being mired in it for months. If there's anything urgent I need to know, my wife will let me know.
It is good to see so many other countries controlling the spread of COVID-19. Our great neighbor to the north, Canada, is on top of it too like so, so many others which is great.
Since the US has sustained its first-wave and never contained the virus, the scientists predict a pretty rough ride.
My wife and I are fortunate since we are employed.
It is good to see so many other countries controlling the spread of COVID-19. Our great neighbor to the north, Canada, is on top of it too like so, so many others which is great.
Since the US has sustained its first-wave and never contained the virus, the scientists predict a pretty rough ride.
My wife and I are fortunate since we are employed.
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BREAKING: Blackburn now designated "Area of intervention" by @PHE_uk as coronavirus rates are still high.
This means sports centres gyms and polls in @blackburndarwen will NOT be allowed to open this weekend.
BREAKING: Blackburn now designated "Area of intervention" by @PHE_uk as coronavirus rates are still high.
This means sports centres gyms and polls in @blackburndarwen will NOT be allowed to open this weekend.
Covid outbreak at Craven Arms caravan park affects 21 people
Twenty-one people have tested positive for coronavirus at a caravan park site in Shropshire, with health experts warning the number will rise.
Testing started when two positive cases were confirmed at Craven Arms last week, linked to an outbreak in Welshpool and a recent local event.
A testing site has now been set up at a nearby business park, Shropshire Council and Public Health England said.
All residents have been told to self-isolate with their families.
To date 41 people have been tested, and all contact tracing is being undertaken as the number of positive cases will increase before infection control measures and social distancing start to take effect, the council said.
Isolation period
Those who tested positive were asked to isolate for a minimum seven days from the time they started showing symptoms, or from when they took their test.
People who were in contact with a positive case were told to isolate for 14 days, the council said.
A playground and outdoor gym on nearby Newington Way has been temporarily closed to help stop transmission, and the council said it had been arranging the delivery of food, prescriptions and essential supplies for residents.
David Evans, councillor for Church Stretton and Craven Arms, said teams were working with the NHS, Public Health England, police and other key agencies to provide advice and support to the local community.
"I would like to thank members of the community for their own ongoing support and co-operation," he said.
"We continue to rely on everyone at the site playing their part, and want to encourage the residents to continue to self-isolate and take all the necessary precautions.
"This is the only way we can help stop the spread of the virus."
Officials will monitor people's symptoms on a daily basis, and PPE equipment, hand sanitisers and cleaning products have also been distributed on site.
Twenty-one people have tested positive for coronavirus at a caravan park site in Shropshire, with health experts warning the number will rise.
Testing started when two positive cases were confirmed at Craven Arms last week, linked to an outbreak in Welshpool and a recent local event.
A testing site has now been set up at a nearby business park, Shropshire Council and Public Health England said.
All residents have been told to self-isolate with their families.
To date 41 people have been tested, and all contact tracing is being undertaken as the number of positive cases will increase before infection control measures and social distancing start to take effect, the council said.
Isolation period
Those who tested positive were asked to isolate for a minimum seven days from the time they started showing symptoms, or from when they took their test.
People who were in contact with a positive case were told to isolate for 14 days, the council said.
A playground and outdoor gym on nearby Newington Way has been temporarily closed to help stop transmission, and the council said it had been arranging the delivery of food, prescriptions and essential supplies for residents.
David Evans, councillor for Church Stretton and Craven Arms, said teams were working with the NHS, Public Health England, police and other key agencies to provide advice and support to the local community.
"I would like to thank members of the community for their own ongoing support and co-operation," he said.
"We continue to rely on everyone at the site playing their part, and want to encourage the residents to continue to self-isolate and take all the necessary precautions.
"This is the only way we can help stop the spread of the virus."
Officials will monitor people's symptoms on a daily basis, and PPE equipment, hand sanitisers and cleaning products have also been distributed on site.
First animal in the U.K to have covid-19
A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus that is causing the current pandemic.
Experts say it is the first confirmed case of infection in an animal in the UK but does not mean the disease is being spread to people by their pets.
It's thought the cat caught coronavirus from its owner, who had previously tested positive for the virus. Both have now recovered.
Health officials stress the case is very rare and no cause for alarm.
"There is no evidence to suggest that pets directly transmit the virus to humans. We will continue to monitor this situation closely and will update our guidance to pet owners should the situation change."
Yvonne Doyle, Public Health England's director for health protection, advised people to wash their hands regularly, including before and after contact with animals.
An animal's fur could carry the virus for a time if a pet were to have come into contact with someone who was sick.
A private vet initially diagnosed feline herpes virus - a common cat respiratory infection - but the sample was also tested for Sars-Cov-2 as part of a research programme.
There has been a very small number of confirmed cases in pets in other countries in Europe, North America and Asia.
Daniella Dos Santos, President of the British Veterinary Association, said: "Our advice to pet owners who have Covid-19 or who are self-isolating with symptoms remains to restrict contact with their pets as a precautionary measure and to practise good hygiene, including regular handwashing.
"We also recommend that owners who are confirmed or suspected to have Covid-19 should keep their cat indoors if possible, but only if the cat is happy to be kept indoors. Some cats cannot stay indoors due to stress-related medical reasons."
A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus that is causing the current pandemic.
Experts say it is the first confirmed case of infection in an animal in the UK but does not mean the disease is being spread to people by their pets.
It's thought the cat caught coronavirus from its owner, who had previously tested positive for the virus. Both have now recovered.
Health officials stress the case is very rare and no cause for alarm.
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"There is no evidence to suggest that pets directly transmit the virus to humans. We will continue to monitor this situation closely and will update our guidance to pet owners should the situation change."
Yvonne Doyle, Public Health England's director for health protection, advised people to wash their hands regularly, including before and after contact with animals.
An animal's fur could carry the virus for a time if a pet were to have come into contact with someone who was sick.
A private vet initially diagnosed feline herpes virus - a common cat respiratory infection - but the sample was also tested for Sars-Cov-2 as part of a research programme.
There has been a very small number of confirmed cases in pets in other countries in Europe, North America and Asia.
Daniella Dos Santos, President of the British Veterinary Association, said: "Our advice to pet owners who have Covid-19 or who are self-isolating with symptoms remains to restrict contact with their pets as a precautionary measure and to practise good hygiene, including regular handwashing.
"We also recommend that owners who are confirmed or suspected to have Covid-19 should keep their cat indoors if possible, but only if the cat is happy to be kept indoors. Some cats cannot stay indoors due to stress-related medical reasons."
