geterbrewed.

[geterbrewed]

Me too.

I think it's forumite hoppyland who is an industry insider and posted about how Britain is the only place that really use leaf hops anymore and the vast majority of hops in the world are turned into pellets

The UK appears to be one of the last markets to phase out leaf, we took the decision to lead the way due to the benefits of using hop pellets plus shipping is considerably cheaper and they store better.

We supply alot of Irish Micro breweries and they are all starting to buy pellet we buy direct from the hop farmers so we know are pellets are super fresh, our storage and foil packaging make them the freshest available. The electric bill for all the refrigeration has been the only issue :lol:

 

[GHW]

I was of the impression that our range was extremely competitive and we have a huge range making us the largest supplier in our local industry, we are discontinuing leaf hops as our working direct with hop farmers has led us to adopt their advise and use pellets. We expanded our warehouse to install an additional walk in fridge to cold store all our hops, we have seen massive growth in the sale of hop pellets ahead of the leaf/cones. When visiting the hop farmers in American and Europe during the 2015 harvest they both felt that hop pellets travelled and stored more consistently when pelletised.

Expect better hop utilisation from hop pellets when recipes call for approximately 10% less hop pellets than leaf plus the less surface area of the pellets helps prevent oxidation so they stay fresher for longer too.

During our visits to a few breweries we also got some interesting tips from brewers, I was surprised to hear a few of them are actually crushing their hop pellets especially in the more hop forward style beers, when sampling I have to say the hop profiles in their beers were impressive, so maybe grinding the hop pellets does actually work..

We use hop pellets in our brewery, simply put the brewer finds them easier to measure and they are cheaper to ship and take up less space. Hop pellets are better in the kettle as they don't soak up as much wort too but we still have home brewers who prefer leaf as they find it suits their system better, perhaps the romantic idea of brewing with fresh leaf hops isn't possible due to the fact we don't have them grown locally, the solution....

We have a range of nylon hop bags and we offer new innovative hop tea bags that infuse well without the issues surrounding blocked filters etc, do you guys still use leaf?

Fair enough, it's your business after all, but I like using leaf and other suppliers have a much better range. Also nothing romantic about it, I just find them more practical and don't end up suspended in my beer clogging my bottling stick.

 

[Notlaw]

Fair enough, it's your business after all, but I like using leaf and other suppliers have a much better range. Also nothing romantic about it, I just find them more practical and don't end up suspended in my beer clogging my bottling stick.

Move on brother, don't be such a luddite.

 

[GHW]

Move on brother, don't be such a luddite.

I am a Luddite in many walks of life, tbh. I just don't see the appeal of pellets, really don't get it.

 

[chub1]

I am a Luddite in many walks of life, tbh. I just don't see the appeal of pellets, really don't get it.

Gareth,
it's called moving with the times:mrgreen:
Not bad that from an old f##t:lol:

 

[Notlaw]

I am a Luddite in many walks of life, tbh. I just don't see the appeal of pellets, really don't get it.

I've seen the future, it's about 10mm long, cylindrical, green and smelly.

 

[Covrich]

Fair enough, it's your business after all, but I like using leaf and other suppliers have a much better range. Also nothing romantic about it, I just find them more practical and don't end up suspended in my beer clogging my bottling stick.

I know I am not going to convert you but if you use a hop filter you never get any, as for dry hopping just put it in a bag weighed down, again nothing..

 

[GHW]

I've seen the future, it's about 10mm long, cylindrical, green and smelly.

Enough about ************ dude, there are ladies present.

 

[GHW]

So here's the thing. You put pellets in for the boil, loose. They then clog the hop filter, the only way to get wort flowing is to scrape the filter, which pushes loads of hop sludge through. How do you avoid that? I can see dry hopping in a bag will help, I have several and usually use them for leaf as it makes removing them a doddle. But the pellets in the boil are a pita?

I have a belma brew to do with 100% pellets so maybe it's an opportunity to see the light.

 

[Hops_and_Dreams]

So here's the thing. You put pellets in for the boil, loose. They then clog the hop filter, the only way to get wort flowing is to scrape the filter, which pushes loads of hop sludge through. How do you avoid that? I can see dry hopping in a bag will help, I have several and usually use them for leaf as it makes removing them a doddle. But the pellets in the boil are a pita?

I have a belma brew to do with 100% pellets so maybe it's an opportunity to see the light.

Not sure about your GF filter, but with the bazooka filter on my pot I find that if I leave the wort to settle for 15min after chilling, the hops sink below the level of the filter and flows ok, up to the last dregs.

If I don't let it settle, exactly what you describe happens and filling the FV becomes a nightmare.

Whirlpooling is also supposed to help, although I've not tried this.

 

[Brew_DD2]

Hop spider for the boil.

 

[Covrich]

Yes Bazooka on my pot filters out my hop pellets I do scrap for the last 20 percent or so.. But I don't find I get much trub.. and ntohing which appears to be hops .. I may get a cm or so trub in FV..

Funny enough last few times I used leaf I got LOADs of trub like over one inch thick.. You'd think it would be the other way around wpouldn't you?? That said they were English leaf hops which have twigs and stuff on them..

 

[Notlaw]

Last time I used leaf, I measured out however much I had to, but then lost 11g... 11 bloody grammes... Due to twigs and all sorts of crap in there. I was royally wazzed off.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I've seen the future, it's about 10mm long, cylindrical, green and smelly.

You have a rabbit. :wink:

 

[Notlaw]

You have a rabbit. :wink:

Are you spying on me, we got a rabbit yesterday coincidentally enough...

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Are you spying on me

Yes. :wink:

 

[Pope]

Our Craft a Grain Recipe Builder has been upgraded a few times with feedback from customers and I take on board that more info in the grain product name may help, if unsure when designing a recipe drop us an email or select the quantity you need of a grain and add a note in the comment box at checkout, our warehouse staff all brew and know what you'll need if your working from a recipe book

Any other thoughts on what info you guys would like on the product name?

Cheers for the response.

In the future I'll send an email if I can't find what I want for an order.

In terms of other information, maybe the EBC the lovibond, names of similar malts and what types of beer the product is often used in.

 

[MrRock]

I tried to use their craftbrew feature earlier today to see how much it would cost for ingredients to make Brewdog's Arcade Nation. However, I couldn't find Crystal 150 Malt or Caramalt. I'm not sure whether they use a different name for them, I was looking in the wrong place or they simply don't sell those items.

Hopefully Jonathan will be back on here soon and will point me in the right direction.

I had the same dilemma when I was ordering for my 5AM Saint clone, I went with Medium Crystal for the Crystal 150, and Carapils instead of Caramalt.

The Brewdog recipe also calls for Extra Pale malt, I just went with Maris Otter Blend this time, but I guess I could have tried a lager malt or something else?

Not sure if any of that was correct or matters too much as I haven't tried the finished article yet, I'm planning a blind taste test. Tasted good at bottling though.

 

[MyQul]

I had the same dilemma when I was ordering for my 5AM Saint clone, I went with Medium Crystal for the Crystal 150, and Carapils instead of Caramalt.

The Brewdog recipe also calls for Extra Pale malt, I just went with Maris Otter Blend this time, but I guess I could have tried a lager malt or something else?

Not sure if any of that was correct or matters too much as I haven't tried the finished article yet, I'm planning a blind taste test. Tasted good at bottling though.

Yes a lager or pilsner malt would have been good for a xtra pale malt sub. You chose correctly for carapils instead of cara malt but medium crystal isn't dark enough for crystal 150.
I think I might sticky a malt substitution chart in the yeast, grains and water forum so people can see what to get if there regular supplier doesnt have what they want

 

[Notlaw]

Yes a lager or pilsner malt would have been good for a xtra pale malt sub. You chose correctly for carapils instead of cara malt but medium crystal isn't dark enough for crystal 150.
I think I might sticky a malt substitution chart in the yeast, grains and water forum so people can see what to get if there regular supplier doesnt have what they want

That's a good idea.