Covid the *** and the final stage.

[Chippy_Tea]

More from the article above -

'My fatigue was like nothing I've experienced before'

Middle-aged women 'worst affected by long Covid'

'I can't walk 10m without a rest'

'Long Covid': Why are some people not recovering?

 

[marshbrewer]

Lots of reports, however, of people who have long Covid type symptoms recovering after recieving the vaccine. Would be great if that turns out to be an actual thing.

 

[simon12]

This doesn't look good "Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...spital-patients-readmitted-within-four-monthsThe article also claims "one in eight had died " though assuming this is the source Post-covid syndrome in individuals admitted to hospital with covid-19: retrospective cohort study it claims more than 1 in 10 one in ten and if you do the maths its 1 in 9.8

 

[Chippy_Tea]

That is a worry -


After an average follow-up time of 140 days, nearly a third of the Covid patients who had been discharged from hospital had been readmitted and about one in eight had died, rates considerably higher than seen in the control group.

“This is a concern and we need to take it seriously,” said Dr Amitava Banerjee, at the Institute of Health Informatics at University College London. “We show conclusively here that this is very far from a benign illness. We need to monitor post-Covid patients so we can pick up organ impairment early on.”

Unexplained symptoms that persist for more than four months are often described as “long Covid” or “post-Covid syndrome”, but doctors are still working out patterns of long-term organ damage that can be caused by the infection.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Lots of reports, however, of people who have long Covid type symptoms recovering after recieving the vaccine. Would be great if that turns out to be an actual thing.

After reading the article above lets hope so.

 

[marshbrewer]

So, there should have been an uptick / spike in Covid deaths, or at the very least excessive deaths, a few months after the first peak, mirroring the shape of the original death curve? I'm not sure there was?

 

[simon12]

That is a worry -


After an average follow-up time of 140 days, nearly a third of the Covid patients who had been discharged from hospital had been readmitted and about one in eight had died, rates considerably higher than seen in the control group.

“This is a concern and we need to take it seriously,” said Dr Amitava Banerjee, at the Institute of Health Informatics at University College London. “We show conclusively here that this is very far from a benign illness. We need to monitor post-Covid patients so we can pick up organ impairment early on.”

Unexplained symptoms that persist for more than four months are often described as “long Covid” or “post-Covid syndrome”, but doctors are still working out patterns of long-term organ damage that can be caused by the infection.

After thinking about it and looking at the source again its not actually that worrying. The source says this 1/3rd re admitted was only 4 times higher than would be expected based on "exactly matched to controls from a pool of about 50 million people in England for personal and clinical characteristics from 10 years of electronic health records" so that would also mean 1 in 4 people who ended up in hospital with covid would have ended up there anyway in a 4.6 month period or the average person who was in hospital with covid would have been there in just over 18 months if covid never existed. So it really only demonstrates that people going to hospital with covid are only those who are quite ill anyway. In order to not go to far back in this direction it does show that covid can cause ongoing organ damage and there is potential in could cause lasting organ damage in those less ill but there are no numbers for that.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I had my *** nearly 24 hours ago and my only side effect is i feel a little warmer than normal, i hope that's the only side effect i get.

 

[darkbright]

I had my *** nearly 24 hours ago and my only side effect is i feel a little warmer than normal, i hope that's the only side effect i get.

I've had a groggy head and some mild headaches at times for the last week. And a sore arm for 48hrs. Pfizer vaccine.

Also, we don't have any positive cases in our local hospital ICU.

All things looking positive at least for the short term.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I've had a groggy head and some mild headaches at times for the last week. And a sore arm for 48hrs. Pfizer vaccine.

I had the Astra Zeneca vaccine SWMBO had the Pfizer and was a bit tired for a couple of days.

 

[Worf]

Wife and I had our first (Moderna) 3wks ago. Second in 8 days.
Just sight area tightness for the first one. Prayerfully, any symptoms for #2 will wait 2 days to set in. My constitution is that of a rock, but my wife not so. (Although she deals with tough illness well)

 

[Theoriginalrich]

I work next to Edinburgh’s ambulance depot and today they came around offering the Pfizer *** to anyone who had their first *** more than three weeks ago, they had an excess and rather than waste them they got people in. Unfortunately they’re unable to do first jabs so I and many others will have to wit a bit longer.

 

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[soupdragon]

Word on the grapevine is that the 2nd *** of the AZ vaccine doesn't give you the side effects as badly as the 1st.
I'll find out for myself in a few hours. They kicked in for me around 12 hours after the 1st *** so if I wake up with the shakes in 3 hours or so I'll let you all know

Cheers Tom

 

[Leon103]

Word on the grapevine is that the 2nd *** of the AZ vaccine doesn't give you the side effects as badly as the 1st.
I'll find out for myself in a few hours. They kicked in for me around 12 hours after the 1st *** so if I wake up with the shakes in 3 hours or so I'll let you all know

Cheers Tom

I have heard of people have worse effects after the 2nd.

 

[soupdragon]

Happy to report that I've not suffered any side effects from my 2nd ***
Other than a slight ache at the injection site, I should add

Cheers Tom

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Awful for the people that have died but if i had known these figures last week i would still have had my AZ ***.


Seven people have died from unusual blood clots after getting the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine in the UK, the medicines regulator has confirmed to the BBC.

In total, 30 people out of 18 million vaccinated by 24 March had these clots.
It is still not clear if they are just a coincidence or a genuine side effect of the vaccine.
The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency says the benefits continue to outweigh any risk.
The World Health Organization and the European Medicines Agency have echoed this conclusion.
A spokeswoman for AstraZeneca said: "Patient safety remains the company's highest priority."
However, concern has led to other countries including Germany, France, the Netherlands and Canada to restrict the vaccine's use only to older people.
The data released by the MHRA on Friday showed 22 cases of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) which is a type of blood clot in the brain.

Full article -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56620646

 

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Boris Johnson is expected to unveil a traffic light system for foreign travel in an update on measures for easing Covid restrictions in England.
The prime minister is to make a series of announcements on changes to lockdown rules at a Downing Street briefing.
More detail might be given on the possible use of Covid certificates to access services or events domestically.
He will also say if non-essential shops can reopen and restaurants can start serving outdoors from 12 April.
Other changes in stage two of England's roadmap include:

• Close-contact services such as hairdressers and barbers can reopen
• Gyms and spas can reopen, as can zoos, theme parks, libraries and community centres
• Members of the same household can take a holiday in England in self-contained accommodation
• Weddings attended by up to 15 people can take place

Mr Johnson will be joined by chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance and England's chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty at the Downing Street briefing at 17:00 BST.
The government has also announced plans for everyone in England to be given access to two rapid coronavirus tests a week from Friday, in an expansion of its testing programme.

Full article - Covid: PM to set out latest lockdown easing in England - BBC News