Campaigner Indigo Rumbelow,

[Chippy_Tea]

As long as she keeps catastrophic climate change at the forefront of the news so that the Bury-my-head-in-the-sand brigade can't pretend it's not very serious then I don't care who's daughter or how privileged she is.

As shown in post #34 she is a hypocrite, i would have loved Mark Austin to have that bit of info to throw at her in the interview.

As i have said several times she is not getting the message across as Theo said in the video go chain yourself to the railings where the politicians are and demand they do what they are paid for instead of blocking roads and stopping people getting to hospital, work etc as that is all the people will talk about not your cause.

 

[An Ankoù]

She's doing what she can and making an effort to avert certain disaster by, in her own way, challenging the oil barons. You can call her what you like, but she's making an effort. What are you doing, or the rest of us, including me?
Her demonstrations are causing some disruption and inconvenience, and, as many point out, it's her methods which are getting all the press not her message. We don't really want to hear her message, do we. Let alone act on it. Too much trouble. Might mean making some serious changes. Can't have that, can we.
Things will get worse and as they do we're going to see climate terrorism. And when that fails, climate wars!
Do you really imagine that as things continue to warm up and southern lands become barren, that people are not going to migrate north. It's already beginning to happen. I'm all right Jack, on my little island with (laughingly) control of its borders. That's not going to last five minutes. All power to Indigo and all of her mates. I hope she can wake us up by stopping traffic and kicking up a stink.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

We don't really want to hear her message, do we.

It's not about whether we want to hear it or not it's about how they are trying and failing to get it across -

Again, i refer you to my earlier post -

She is not getting the message across as Theo said in the video go chain yourself to the railings where the politicians are and demand they do what they are paid for instead of blocking roads and stopping people getting to hospital, work etc as that is all the people will talk about not your cause.

 

[Rodcx500z]

We know she is, but hurting the wrong people, it won't be long before one is run over and injured or even killed which would be sad

 

[Clint]

Rumbelow...is she anything to do with telly shops?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Rumbelow...is she anything to do with telly shops?

Thats a blast from the past Clint.

 

[Clint]

Ah! Must be her dad...made a fortune on mass produced electrical goods imported from the far east and got out in time as wind up stuff didn't catch on.

 

[An Ankoù]

It's not about whether we want to hear it or not it's about how they are trying and failing to get it across -

Again, i refer you to my earlier post -

She is not getting the message across as Theo said in the video go chain yourself to the railings where the politicians are and demand they do what they are paid for instead of blocking roads and stopping people getting to hospital, work etc as that is all the people will talk about not your cause.

On the contrary, Chippy, it's All about whether we want to hear the message or not, but it's also about having heard the message, will we act upon it. I fear not.
Someone said that sooner or later someone's going to get killed. Here's a philosophical question: is it better or worse that many should die through the apathy and inaction of those who could make a difference, or that one or two should unintentionally lose their lives because of an effort to make a difference?
And hundreds and thousands are dying as we speak.
No more than 5000 words. Explore more than one point of view.
50 mks.

 

[dad_of_jon]

But she's not a leader and our leaders are doing eff all.
So what's a poor girl to do? We haven't got a hundred years to sort this out. Not even ten!

She wishes to take a lead on an issue that's enough surely.

An ankou, I try to make a better choice whenever I can and everyone that can perhaps should. Yet other larger more populous countries not doing so means my contribution is probably a gnat piddle in a reservoir.

Even though I don't believe I have ten years left that won't stop me aiming to use less resources. If I'm alive in ten years and the world still has a organised human civilization maybe you'll give me all your beer having lost the bet. If I die before then but civilization is ok that doesn't apply. But if I die because of the collapse of civilization you can have all my beer

 

[An Ankoù]

She wishes to take a lead on an issue that's enough surely.

An ankou, I try to make a better choice whenever I can and everyone that can perhaps should. Yet other larger more populous countries not doing so means my contribution is probably a gnat piddle in a reservoir.

Even though I don't believe I have ten years left that won't stop me aiming to use less resources. If I'm alive in ten years and the world still has a organised human civilization maybe you'll give me all your beer having lost the bet. If I die before then but civilisation is ok that doesn't apply. But if I die because of the collapse of civiliastation you can have all my beer

Thanks DoJ. If I go first you can have mine. It's my kids I worry for, and their kids. And John, of course.

I remember the days when we were told to save energy in the 80s because of strikes by turning off unnecessary lights. And the street lights were left blazing. The "every little helps" thing is just a platitude and I agree with you.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

On the contrary, Chippy, it's All about whether we want to hear the message or not, but it's also about having heard the message, will we act upon it. I fear not.

Earlier you said people had their heads in the sand and don't want to hear i pointed out that the protesters message in not getting across because the media are concentrating on the illegal protest not the reason behind it how are we to act if the message is not getting through due to the reasons i have given throughout this thread.

As said in the video they have a means of getting their message across without inconveniencing thousands of people they can go to Westminster and chain themselves to the railings then the people that make the rules will be inconvenienced not the general public going about their daily lives traveling to hospital, work etc.

 

[Stan's Brew]

Governments are acting, hasn't Sunak just pledged to give away $1 Trillion of UK taxpayers money to Africa for climate reparations?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Governments are acting, hasn't Sunak just pledged to give away $1 Trillion of UK taxpayers money to Africa for climate reparations?

I hope he took advice as it looks like those in the know think he made a huge mistake.

 

[Stan's Brew]

I hope he took advice as it looks like those in the know think he made a huge mistake.

Yep, an unelected prime minister donating vast quantities of taxpayers money to who knows where, with no transparency, no vote in parliament, no debate, no consultation with the British public, I'm sure there's a word for these kinds of so-called leaders.

 

[An Ankoù]

Earlier you said people had their heads in the sand and don't want to hear i pointed out that the protesters message in not getting across because the media are concentrating on the illegal protest not the reason behind it how are we to act if the message is not getting through due to the reasons i have given throughout this thread.

As said in the video they have a means of getting their message across without inconveniencing thousands of people they can go to Westminster and chain themselves to the railings then the people that make the rules will be inconvenienced not the general public going about their daily lives traveling to hospital, work etc.

You miss the point so spectacularly.
People that make the rules don't give a monkey's toss. "The general public going about their daily lives" implies no change, no inconvenience. So nothing's going to change. As @dad_of_jon implied earlier, everyone doing their bit is like peeing in the ocean. We need change on a scale that'll cause massive "inconvenience". That's not going to come from our sold out politicians who only care about re-election, there's got to be a groundswell from the people. So chaining ourselves to the railings outside number 10 would be a waste of time.
Bottom line is that we don't want the inconvenience of saving the planet.

 

[Stan's Brew]

You miss the point so spectacularly.
People that make the rules don't give a monkey's toss. "The general public going about their daily lives" implies no change, no inconvenience. So nothing's going to change. As @dad_of_jon implied earlier, everyone doing their bit is like peeing in the ocean. We need change on a scale that'll cause massive "inconvenience". That's not going to come from our sold out politicians who only care about re-election, there's got to be a groundswell from the people. So chaining ourselves to the railings outside number 10 would be a waste of time.
Bottom line is that we don't want the inconvenience of saving the planet.

I think that if people really thought that there is a climate crisis then it would be all out panic stations to save ourselves. But because alot of people are awake to the history of the abject corruption, hypocrisy, lies and gaslighting by preachy billionaires, banksters, politicians, celebs, media, NGOs, thinktanks, globalists, corporations, academics and anyone else creaming it from the climate agenda gravy train, that all trust is lost and no-one really believes the end is nigh.

There is no grass roots movement attempting to educate the masses about the climate to persuade them that giving up their hard earned tax money is a worthwhile endeavour to save themselves, all these climate action groups are funded directly or indirectly by the same aforementioned bunch of preachy billionaires and governments (using tax payers money), thereby ruling out the definition of a grass roots movement.

Otherwise the masses would be willing to go all in as the case for the climate agenda would be so strong that they would believe it, but alas, it is not so.

 

[lancon]

Yep, an unelected prime minister donating vast quantities of taxpayers money to who knows where, with no transparency, no vote in parliament, no debate, no consultation with the British public, I'm sure there's a word for these kinds of so-called leaders.

I hope he took advice as it looks like those in the know think he made a huge mistake.

I must admit that I am not sure why this is supposed to be by someone in the know, just watched 10 minutes of it and these seem to be just spouting what they had read on daily mail online, though in posh voices and with corrected grammar.

And Sunak not supposed to be giving trillion in reparation

 

[lancon]

I think that if people really thought that there is a climate crisis then it would be all out panic stations to save ourselves. But because alot of people are awake to the history of the abject corruption, hypocrisy, lies and gaslighting by preachy billionaires, banksters, politicians, celebs, media, NGOs, thinktanks, globalists, corporations, academics and anyone else creaming it from the climate agenda gravy train, that all trust is lost and no-one really believes the end is nigh.

There is no grass roots movement attempting to educate the masses about the climate to persuade them that giving up their hard earned tax money is a worthwhile endeavour to save themselves, all these climate action groups are funded directly or indirectly by the same aforementioned bunch of preachy billionaires and governments (using tax payers money), thereby ruling out the definition of a grass roots movement.

Otherwise the masses would be willing to go all in as the case for the climate agenda would be so strong that they would believe it, but alas, it is not so.

1. The 'climate crisis' look at the science
2. 'the masses .....giving up hard earned tax money' I am not sure where this comes from. If it read 'companies giving up billions of pounds/dollars of profit it would make more sense.
3. 'all these climate action groups are funded....' tried to find the proof, found an Australian from a mining group spouting something akin to this.
4. the masses have to be with by strong leadership, unfortunately that is not the case with the government still preferring to doff their cap to the oil companies and still refuse to go for the quickest route to oil free power, onshore wind farms.

 

[Clarence]

I think that if people really thought that there is a climate crisis then it would be all out panic stations to save ourselves. But because alot of people are awake to the history of the abject corruption, hypocrisy, lies and gaslighting by preachy billionaires, banksters, politicians, celebs, media, NGOs, thinktanks, globalists, corporations, academics and anyone else creaming it from the climate agenda gravy train, that all trust is lost and no-one really believes the end is nigh.

There is no grass roots movement attempting to educate the masses about the climate to persuade them that giving up their hard earned tax money is a worthwhile endeavour to save themselves, all these climate action groups are funded directly or indirectly by the same aforementioned bunch of preachy billionaires and governments (using tax payers money), thereby ruling out the definition of a grass roots movement.

Otherwise the masses would be willing to go all in as the case for the climate agenda would be so strong that they would believe it, but alas, it is not so.

Oh dear. A climate change denier. That's all we need. Trump will, no doubt, be overjoyed to learn there's at least two of you!

 

[lancon]

Oh dear. A climate change denier. That's all we need. Trump will, no doubt, be overjoyed to learn there's at least two of you!

don't forget at least half the tory party as well