Wlp001

[MyQul]

You going to lager this too? really interesting to see what the end result is

I'll lager at least 5L of it. Anything else from the batch I'll drink as a clean ale. The gravity sample definately tastes promising. So far I pleased with this yeast

 

[rodwha]

I started off using WLP001 and eventually washed the yeast and kept it going. I ended up losing track of how many brews were made with each jar and had noted it was (can't recall the proper word) morphing as I was getting a bit higher attenuation.

We were moving and so I decided to dump my liquid strains and try dry in the meantime. US-05 was giving me the same attenuation but was leaving the sediment in the bottle compacted better. I don't care for too much yeast floating around and try to decant well enough. I've since washed this and am keeping it going instead.

I have read that it is the same strain, but have heard of flavors becoming present if fermented too cool or too warm, that it has a rather small window. I've only gone as low at 17.8 and as high as 19.4* without any issues.

 

[rodwha]

I've used both WLP 001 and US-05 to make a nice schwarzbier. I've also used it to make a cream ale which is supposed to somewhat mimic an American lager (but much better as those seem to taste rather nasty if they warm up too much).

 

[Covrich]

I started off using WLP001 and eventually washed the yeast and kept it going. I ended up losing track of how many brews were made with each jar and had noted it was (can't recall the proper word) morphing as I was getting a bit higher attenuation.

We were moving and so I decided to dump my liquid strains and try dry in the meantime. US-05 was giving me the same attenuation but was leaving the sediment in the bottle compacted better. I don't care for too much yeast floating around and try to decant well enough. I've since washed this and am keeping it going instead.

I have read that it is the same strain, but have heard of flavors becoming present if fermented too cool or too warm, that it has a rather small window. I've only gone as low at 17.8 and as high as 19.4* without any issues.

Mutation?

Yeah it can depend on how you collect and crop, after a while if you en up with the selection of the higher attentuating yeasts you could end up with yeast that doesn't flocculate..

You can also do teh opposite and harvest the lazier yeast of the batch which flocs great attenuates poor.

 

[rodwha]

Yes, mutation. Thanks.

Hmmmmm... Hadn't read about that. It certainly makes sense though.

I've never top cropped. What I get is what will suspend in the trub 3 weeks later.

 

[MyQul]

I've been thinking about doing a kolsch and a 'classic' Steam Beer. One thing that they seem to have in common is the yeast gives a clean flavour. I'm thinking I could use WLP001 for making both these styles too :hmm:

 

[windrider]

US-05, WY1056 and WLP001 are supposedly the same strain of yeast...Rumoured to be from Sierra Nevada.

I always use WLP001 and love it :thumb: Infact i'm brewing a EKG pale ale with it this weekend. Think i'm on my 6th gen of this yeast.

 

[rodwha]

I've been thinking about doing a kolsch and a 'classic' Steam Beer. One thing that they seem to have in common is the yeast gives a clean flavour. I'm thinking I could use WLP001 for making both these styles too :hmm:

I believe it would work well enough. I've used US-05 to make a cream ale and an ale version of schwarzbier. Both are quite good.

 

[MyQul]

I believe it would work well enough. I've used US-05 to make a cream ale and an ale version of schwarzbier. Both are quite good.

I read an article on kolsch's this afternoon and it said you could use virtually any yeast strain you like as the fermentation temp (16C for both ale or lager so cooler for ale but warmer for lager) was more important that the strain itself

 

[Notlaw]

I read an article on kolsch's this afternoon and it said you could use virtually any yeast strain you like as the fermentation temp (16C for both ale or lager so cooler for ale but warmer for lager) was more important that the strain itself

You don't have a link to that article Mikey have you? I'm wanting to do a Kölsch myself.

 

[MyQul]

You don't have a link to that article Mikey have you? I'm wanting to do a Kölsch myself.

Yes but I'm not going to tell you what it is :lol:

 

[Notlaw]

Yes but I'm not going to tell you what it is :lol:

Ooh yer a bugger.

 

[MyQul]

Ooh yer a bugger.

:lol::lol:

Oh, go on then.

https://beerandbrewing.com/V0dElCkAAM9xoowW/article/make-your-best-kolsch (you need to scroll down the page a bit for the article)

 

[Notlaw]

:lol::lol:

Oh, go on then.

https://beerandbrewing.com/V0dElCkAAM9xoowW/article/make-your-best-kolsch (you need to scroll down the page a bit for the article)

Ah bless, cheers cupcake.

 

[MyQul]

Just too took about 100ml or so sample of my free fermented 'vienna pseudo lager' to see what it tastes like. It's very fruity/estery not like a lager should be at all and much more ale like. So I think I'm going to have to call this a hybrid beer or something. I'm still planning on cold conditioning it though. The next pseudo lager I do, I'll definately use my brew bag to try to keep it cleaner tasting.

 

[BeerCat]

My American Stout with WLP001 got down to 1010. My lager didn't taste like Lager and was fermented with Lager Yeast at about 14c. Not impressed one little bit to be honest.

 

[MyQul]

My American Stout with WLP001 got down to 1010. My lager didn't taste like Lager and was fermented with Lager Yeast at about 14c. Not impressed one little bit to be honest.

Did you lager (cold condition) the lager though?

 

[TheRedDarren]

Just too took about 100ml or so sample of my free fermented 'vienna pseudo lager' to see what it tastes like. It's very fruity/estery not like a lager should be at all and much more ale like. So I think I'm going to have to call this a hybrid beer or something. I'm still planning on cold conditioning it though. The next pseudo lager I do, I'll definately use my brew bag to try to keep it cleaner tasting.

Was this with 001?

 

[MyQul]

Was this with 001?

Yes. I think it did well though. I free fermented at 22C/23C ambient so the temp in the FV would have got a lat warmer with the exothermic reation from the yeast

 

[TheRedDarren]

Yes. I think it did well though. I free fermented at 22C/23C ambient so the temp in the FV would have got a lat warmer with the exothermic reation from the yeast

Wowzers! Fair enough, I didn't think this strain ever gave off any esters. I'll have to tone down my fermentation temps a bit I think.