Which steriliser for bottles?

[foxhound]

I've found some equipment that will help me to sterilise and rinse bottles quicker than soaking and rinsing, but I don't know which sterilising powder or liquid to use. I don't mind buying this from the usual suppliers on the internet but don't know which one I can use. I've bought a device that sprays liquid up into the bottle for sterilising, then I've got another divice to spray clean water to rinse the bottle. Can anyone suggest a brand of powder or liquid for sterilising please? :

 

[Aleman]

Five Star Star San
Videne
SteriBev
Peracetic Acid

All can be used on bottles that are already clean and do not need rinsing . . .they will only sanitise however . .to sterilise you need to pressure cook them for 20 minutes at 121C

 

[craigite]

Five Star Star San
Videne
SteriBev
Peracetic Acid

All can be used on bottles that are already clean and do not need rinsing . . .they will only sanitise however . .to sterilise you need to pressure cook them for 20 minutes at 121C

Could someone explain to me the difference between sanitise ans sterilise :pray:
Elsewhere I read many only using videne on washed clean bottles prior to use; with the implication it kill all 'bugs' on contact with no rinse needed.

I ask as I fance building a system as foxhound describes. :thumb:

 

[Aleman]

Could someone explain to me the difference between sanitise ans sterilise :pray:

Sterilise kills all bug period nothing left around that can possibly grow at all. Sanitise knocks the level of contamination down to as low a level as to be of little concern.

Elsewhere I read many only using videne on washed clean bottles prior to use; with the implication it kill all 'bugs' on contact with no rinse needed.

Correct, all the sanitisers I mentioned earlier are only effective on clean surfaces and are all no rinse. So asl long as the bottles are clean a simple spray and drain is all that is required to sanitise the surfaces prior to filling.

Actually Peracetic Acid is as damn as near it a chemical steriliser . . .unfortunately in it's neat form it is nasty stuff.

 

[mr_spin]

i'm hearing more and more about peracetic - where can we get it from?

 

[richc]

i'm hearing more and more about peracetic - where can we get it from?

The Malt Miller (http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=106) does it, but, I'll repeat the warning, undiluted it is pretty nasty stuff.

 

[foxhound]

Five Star Star San
Videne
SteriBev
Peracetic Acid

All can be used on bottles that are already clean and do not need rinsing . . .they will only sanitise however . .to sterilise you need to pressure cook them for 20 minutes at 121C

I normally use VWP powder mixed with warm water as mentioned on the tub. My bottles are always washed and dried before i use VWP. So if I mix VWP as I normally do, fill my spray device with that and then rinse with cold water I should be OK. This will speed up my bottling no end! :lol: Many thanks for the swift reply :drink:

 

[Growler]

I'm at work so can't check but I believe that you have to leave your items in contact with VWP for at least 20 mins
it's not a contact sanitizer

 

[Muddy Funker]

I've made the switch to Videne, I bought two bottles.

It's awesome, dilute to the correct solution and use, no rinse.

Epic!

 

[31bb3]

I made a steamer steraliser fits onto the wallpaper steamer then bobs your uncle I'll try to find the posting

 

[otuatail]

The shop I go to has powder 'sodium metabisulphite' strong stuff if in hot water. But that steamer idea looks cool.

 

[31bb3]

And it works a treat ive done hundreds of bottles never had a problem

 

[Cussword]

I use a steamer, I haven't got a fancy gadget like yours Eddie, I just do them one at a time while in the wine rack then on to the "draining tree thingummy". Please excuse the technical jargon. :lol:

 

[cnelsonplumber]

What a great idea. Think I might knock one of these up at the weekend as wine production is up to 2 doz bottles a week and sanitising is time comnsuming

 

[otuatail]

2 doz bottles a week
Have you got good medical insurance?

 

[Moley]

wine production is up to 2 doz bottles a week and sanitising is time consuming

Nonsense.

Production capacity is admirable :thumb:
Brew faster than you can drink, at least some of it might get proper maturation.

I've just bottled 15 litres of WOW, my bottles are stored clean and dried, so a quick splash of Videne solution (shake, shake, drain) and a quick rinse (shake, shake, drain) and they are ready to fill, only takes a few seconds each.


I'm sure that wine must evaporate though :wha:
I started with 15 litres but by the time I'd finished bottling there was only 14.5 :whistle: :drunk:

 

[battwave]

I made a steamer steraliser fits onto the wallpaper steamer then bobs your uncle I'll try to find the posting

Nice idea mate; I was just working up something similar with water sprays. I've prototyped a cross-crimp on the end of the 15mm copper pipes to give a controlled spray pattern, and decided to sit them in a honeycomb of 110mm waste pipes (un-used of course!) to give support to all bottle shapes (500ml crown cap, swing-top bottles, wine bottle and 1960s quart bottles). Nothing built yet though; still accumulating scrap materials for construction.

.......but I never thought about using steam. Have you had any problems with bottles cracking with the heat? Also, how long do you need to steam each batch?

 

[cnelsonplumber]

............................................ so a quick splash of Videne solution (shake, shake, drain) and a quick rinse (shake, shake, drain) and they are ready to fill, only takes a few seconds each.

I havn't used videne solution but may well try it when my VWP stock runs out, think it may save me some time.

Currently drinking 8 bottles per batch and maturing 16 in an attempt to fill the wine rack I bought off Ebay for a tenner. Problem is the rack is taller than I am andf i'm no shortie!

 

[31bb3]

i syteam about 5 min each batch be careful they get chuffing hot i wear thick gloves never had one crack

 

[Beer Buddah]

Love that battwave, ye got to love the time man spends inventing things to make BEER :