What's your opinion on Grolsch?

[ScottM]

what's this side of the fence ?.... I'm just a home alone brewer same as you

The side of the fence where a problem can be seen with most members attitude towards other members who think about mentioning enjoying a commerical lager, a commercial cider, a commercial anything, anything that isn't ale when referencing beer, anything that isn't a scrumpy cider when mentioning cider.

I've been on the forum long enough now to see dig after dig after dig on most threads where anything like Lager is spoken about. I also continually see dig after dig on cider threads when anything other than traditional west country cider is spoken about.

If you don't have any idea what I'm talking about and have not seen what I am talking about then we are on very opposite sides of the fence and I'm the one not wearing shades.

 

[PD]

and I'm not the one with a problem.....

Hey ho last post......

 

[ScottM]

and I'm not the one with a problem.....

Hey ho last post......

I didn't say you were, I didn't say you had ever had anything negative, my point is the fact that noone seems to notice/care that certain people show complete distain to certain preferences and to members with those certain preferences.

My only point to you was that there is a problem and apparently you are blind to see it.

 

[Moley]

As for the Ruby, I'm so used to saying it that I wrote it. Years ago we (apprentices in work) jumbled up all the slang terms for things that get used in the work a lot. Sky diver and ruby murray were just a couple that got thrown into the mix

Not heard of a "lady" though lol.

Lady Godiva.

And if you apply a bit of lateral thinking to rhyming slang, £15 is a Commodore.

Work it out for yourself.

 

[ScottM]

As for the Ruby, I'm so used to saying it that I wrote it. Years ago we (apprentices in work) jumbled up all the slang terms for things that get used in the work a lot. Sky diver and ruby murray were just a couple that got thrown into the mix

Not heard of a "lady" though lol.

Lady Godiva.

And if you apply a bit of lateral thinking to rhyming slang, £15 is a Commodore.

Work it out for yourself.

Hahahhaa, that's very clever

I racked my brain trying to get it, even passed it by a few collegues to see if they could think of what it meant, but we couldn't get the answer. I was on the right lines with my thinking but in the end up I had to google it

 

[sam.k]

I like grolsch in the summer, ice cold with meat cooked over real burning stuff.
Tbh it's the only lager I really like besides San Miguel which is consumed at the same time of year.

 

[jonewer]

I find it to taste like l***r

 

[screamlead]

I like the bottles! :

 

[ScottM]

I like grolsch in the summer, ice cold with meat cooked over real burning stuff.
Tbh it's the only lager I really like besides San Miguel which is consumed at the same time of year.

I found new love in San Miguel. Very rich and strong flavoured. It was at a hotel in Glasgow prior to flying out to Spain. Thought I would get myself ready for what i was going to be drinking for the next 14 nights lol. It was magic though, very well served pint (it was over £4 so it's a good job lol) and a fair bit different from the all inclusive hotel stuff

 

[falafael]

Must admit i like the grolsch bottles only, forget cans and draught, and being a brewer, i also do drink commercial beers too, i am no elitist by far.
I enjoy a drink, other week i was supping 2 litre bottles of asda cider at £2, as it was on offer, yes i also agree with you about Peroni too, lovely drink.
I know in a way what scott is reffering too, it remind me in a way of the fan boys when it comes to XBOX360 v PS3!
:

 

[calumscott]

At the risk of chucking paraffin on the flames...

There is a *very* good reason why the majority of the regular contributors to THBF range from cold towards to anti mass produced commercial beer (not just lager I hasten to add) is because, at the "really do it all yourself, spend a whole day making a beer" end of craft brewing, the people involved are the people who have done enough drinking and learning to grasp the basic concept of the mass brewer which doesn't fit with their ethos when it comes to produce.

Mass producers do produce good stuff. But on the whole they don't. They are tied not to out and out profit (as is the common misconception) but to continuity and uniformity (because that's what investors like) and mass market appeal gives you that foundation. They cannot be radical, they cannot break moulds, they cannot put themselves out there because investors get jittery. So they have to produce mass market stuff and compete only on marketing for market share.

It stifles innovation at the product level (but drives it very hard at the marketing level) and that's not what craft beer is about.

Which brings me neatly back round to where I started. Even if (and some of them do) the mass producers made really tasty beer, there would still be a large "anti" feeling because it would never move the product on. It would be tasty, but there it would stop.

Grolsch? Not for me thanks. I'll spend my hard-earned on a 77, a Cotswold 3.8 or a Scheihallion instead. I think they taste better and and it supports the little guys (although I'm finding it harder and harder to call Brewdog a little guy nowadays...).

Anyway, the point is, just like food, I like to know that my beer is made by people who care about the beer first and the shareholders second.

I suspect this is from where what you call the "stinking attitude" comes.

That and the fact that you asked the question canvassing peoples opinion of Grolsch, you got them from a representative sample of the UK's home craft brewers. It's not a case of having just mentioned it and been hounded for it, I'd take a different stance if that were the case. It's not cool to ask for people's opinions then get funny about it when they give them. Sorry.

 

[Aleman]

I used to be a regular Grolsch drinker (for the bottles of course) . . .unfortunately now Morrisons have stopped doing the swing tops in favour of the 600ml bottles, I'm having to look elsewhere for my bottles.

As mass produced lager goes it is actually pretty damned good, especially in bottles which IIRC is brewed abroad (IMBWIOA), it's not going to compare with a Warsteiner or a kaiserdom, but knocks spots of most eruotrash.

Green bottles are a PITA especially now Tesco have stopped doing Bernard Cerne Pivo, but I have to trawl a bit further to Aldi and Lidl to see if they have any of their Brown swing tops available.

 

[alawlor66430]

I think we should start bashing commercial sausages next lol (joke btw)

 

[falafael]

I think we should start bashing commercial sausages next lol (joke btw)

OI!!, i love walls!

 

[calumscott]

I think we should start bashing commercial sausages next lol (joke btw)

No need! I think the industry, the press and the scientists have done a pretty good job!

 

[alawlor66430]

Lol I love walls to, but I'm kinda with Scott on this, but at the same time it is an open forum and everyone's opinion is valid no matter how far left or right it is, I've discussed it with my auld man and we both agreed that we prefer craft/ homemade beers but if I go up to visit him and all he has is some cans of tenants or fosters or carlsberg then there's no chance I'm going to refuse one, and yip I'm gonna say it, I'll even enjoy it.

 

[calumscott]

some cans of tenants

:lol: My guilty secret - I always try and fit in time for a pint with my big bro when I'm up north and it has to be Tennants!

 

[alawlor66430]

It's cold it's refreshing it's by no means offensive so I say if it's wet drink it lol

 

[graysalchemy]

I think I am right in saying that tennants is the oldest brewer of lager in the UK. They have been doing it since 1885 when most of the English brewers were still sending Pale Ale half way round the globe.

However they seemed to have lost all they learnt about it and with all other large commercial brewers in the UK they produce P*ss.

 

[falafael]

I think I am right in saying that tennants is the oldest brewer of lager in the UK. They have been doing it since 1885 when most of the English brewers were still sending Pale Ale half way round the globe.

However they seemed to have lost all they learnt about it and with all other large commercial brewers in the UK they produce P*ss.

SO, your trying to tell us, you have NEVER been a little curious, just a little, to see how smart price, lager and bitter tastes lilke!! lol