Drinking @dave_77 hoppy amber, at first quite similiar to my american amber, same hops used so a similiar aroma. Unfortunately a little undercarbed and little to no head on it. Very clear copper brown coloured, american piney/resin hops come through. Much more bitter than mine with a solid malty backbone. Medium to full bodied, I like it, though possibly too bitter for me, but that's just my taste. It fits the bjcp guidelines and is great start to an evenings drinking. Cheers!