Just checked my verblijfsvergunning - yes, that is me.Ronald Pattinson, is that really you?
Just checked my verblijfsvergunning - yes, that is me.Ronald Pattinson, is that really you?
But American hops are typical of that period's Mild Ales.Ah, you do get the hang of Edd's "conversions" after a bit! And "Vienna Malt" was one of mine anyway; Crisp Vienna = Crisp Mild malt.
(EDIT: The hop choices were mine too, damned if I was getting any "Cluster" hops in!)
But, I may repeat sentence to back up my fibs about the origin of "Mild" (above). I presume you are using "Mild" as a noun and not aBut American hops are typical of that period's Mild Ales.
Don't know if I have to use orJust checked my verblijfsvergunning - yes, that is me.
How long do you have?But, I may repeat sentence to back up my fibs about the origin of "Mild" (above). I presume you are using "Mild" as a noun and not averbadjective?
I'll take any 100 euros that's going, as an impoverished unemployed person.300 euros ... 300 euros ... tell yer what, I'll make up what I think you should say, and for 100 euros you keep yer trap shut?
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Right, excellent, I've just got to get it past the nurses ....I'll take any 100 euros that's going, as an impoverished unemployed person.
No interest to me, because I was watching it while you posted it on here!May, or may not be of interest.
I find the above video interesting for this very point. Centuries of brewing history condensed and simplified, showing Porter, Mild, Old/Stale, Bitter and Lager to be styles that are constantly evolving, and going in and out of fashion. Changes largely the result of influences from outside the brewhouse. Any possible demarcation being when old/stock/stale went out of fashion and something else filled the void of being the antithesis to 'Mild'.There is the possibility that no clear line exists between "Mild" and "mild"
Cracking! It fits what I'm trying to define as Mild too, though perhaps a tad strong, but not as strong as the Pale Ales (about 1.060 seemed common for a "basic" pale ale). But mostly because it's called "4d mild ale", which Martyn Cornell talks about in that video @Sadfield posted ("4 Ale Bar" 'cos the mild ale cost 4d a quart).Ey Up peebee
Here's a belting 4 d Mild Ale from 1884
https://oldbeersandbrewing.blogspot.com/2021/04/w-b-mew-langton-co-4-d-mild-ale-no-38.htmlCheers
Edd
True 'nough. Condensing the history does make "demarcations" easier. But I'm getting the impression I could have picked any time 'tween 1820 and 1920 as the moment "mild" ale became "Mild" ale. This "Mild!" book I'm reading is just overloading me with stuff I can invent all sorts of "demarcations" with. My choice of 1880 was already under doubt 'cos I was possibly seeing the effects of the Americans beating the cr&p out of each other and also the steady decline of Porter.I find the above video interesting for this very point. Centuries of brewing history condensed and simplified, showing Porter, Mild, Old/Stale, Bitter and Lager to be styles that are constantly evolving, and going in and out of fashion. Changes largely the result of influences from outside the brewhouse. Any possible demarcation being when old/stock/stale went out of fashion and something else filled the void of being the antithesis to 'Mild'.... There is the possibility that no clear line exists between "Mild" and "mild" ...
I find it very easy to differentiate between "Mild" and "mild". One is amadjective and the other is a noun. Really Mild is shorthand for Mild Ale. The style is really Ale, not Mild. Whereas the adjective mild can be used to describe any style of beer. There's no confusion at all in my mind between the two.No interest to me, because I was watching it while you posted it on here!
Martyn's approach, to me, is that he doesn't try to separate "mild" from "Mild" except perhaps the "modern" Mild appearing about the world wars, and what had gone before.
Ron Pattinson is much the same in not clearly separating "mild" from "Mild, but he does talk of "mild pale ales" and "mild porters" as being quite distinct from modern "Mild". But I'm still trawling through his work (Mild! Mega book edition) and got miles to go yet.
I'm still keen to find the switch between "Mild" and "mild", but seem to have got off to a bad start reading way too much into that Invert No.4 addition in one recipe I looked at. There is the possibility that no clear line exists between "Mild" and "mild" (note I've stopped trying to use the noun/adjective boundary which I've had a disastrous attempt to use it before and only proved I'm no good at grammar).
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