Vegetarians and Vegans

[darlacat]

Looking through some of the comments, I don't understand why some meat eaters get so offended by veganism, and especially meat replacement products. Meat replacement products aren't solely for vegans either, as people also buy them if they are looking to reduce their meat intake, but don't have a wide repertoire in cooking non-meat dishes from scratch. You will never be prohibited from eating meat, so who cares?!

I'm a meat eater, but my wife is vegan (not ultra strict), and daughter vegetarian, so only eat meat these days when out for a meal. In my view, eating meat is fine but in moderation - historically meat was something eaten occasionally given how resource and labour intesnive it is to produce. The intense industrial production of meat is wrong, in my view, and we don't need to eat meat with every meal - but if you disagree, fine. If various post-Brexit trade deals go the way I expect and our market is flooded with imported and intensively and industrially-produced and modified meat over more natural and welfare-aligned British produce, I will likely go vegetarian.

If you like Asian food cooking vegan and vegetarian is easy: especially with Indian food given that their population is majority vegetarian, and meat dishes are actually the exception! Italian food is great for vegetarian dishes.

 

[Binkei Huckaback]

What’s a flexitirian ??
like non binary for food choice ?
there’s a new pc term for everything these days it seems

There's nothing 'PC' about it. And surely, the bandwagon jumpers are the major food manufacturers who've realised they can make money from how people choose to eat.

Why is it so wrong to identify with a certain group in society? I bet you do.

 

[Donegal john]

There's nothing 'PC' about it. And surely, the bandwagon jumpers are the major food manufacturers who've realised they can make money from how people choose to eat.

Why is it so wrong to identify with a certain group in society? I bet you do.

Aye male

 

[darlacat]

Aye male

Not doing your argument any favours here, as you've proved @Binkei Huckaback 's point...

Who cares? Eat what you want, leave others eat what they want; be who you want to be, leave others to do the same. No-one is infiringing on your way of life, especially as it is the dominant one in our society!

 

[Binkei Huckaback]

The intense industrial production of meat is wrong

Exactly. I wouldn't mind betting the majority of people - here and in the wider population (and I include myself) - if they saw how animals are reared and slaughtered in pursuit of profit for large corporations.

 

[Donegal john]

Not doing your argument any favours here, as you've proved @Binkei Huckaback 's point...

Who cares? Eat what you want, leave others eat what they want; be who you want to be, leave others to do the same. No-one is infiringing on your way of life, especially as it is the dominant one in our society!

Being male is not being part of a group it’s being human. I didn’t say “heterosexual meat eating beer drinking male”
I have absolutely no issues with vegetarians nor their choices I merely pointed out how absurd it was to ME that something like meat free black pudding existed. And that I also learned a new word “flexitaranian” and this is also absurd to ME as it simply describes an omnivore. I do eat what I want but I’m also free to laugh at the absurdity of others.

 

[Binkei Huckaback]

Aye male

And that's it is it? Not male and straight, male and gay or bi? Not British or Irish or even European when asked for your nationality? Not a Christian or Muslim male? Not a supporter of any football or rugby team? Not a drinker of beer or gin or wine?

Not that there's anything wrong with just being 'male' and I certainly don't expect you to chiose any of those answers here, it's just that I doubt that when anyone asks you questions to any of those answers above, I doubt you answer simply 'male'.

 

[Donegal john]

And that's it is it? Not male and straight, male and gay or bi? Not British or Irish or even European when asked for your nationality? Not a Christian or Muslim male? Not a supporter of any football or rugby team? Not a drinker of beer or gin or wine, just alcohol?

Not that there's anything wrong with just being 'male', it's just that I doubt that when anyone asks you questions to any of those answers above, I doubt you answer simply 'male'.

You might feel the need to fit into a group but I have no desire to and no need to. And being one thing or liking a certain drink isn’t a group it’s a lifestyle choice. So yes I would just answer male. But this has very little to do with black pudding

 

[Binkei Huckaback]

I also learned a new word “flexitaranian” and this is also absurd to ME as it simply describes an omnivore.
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You may have learned a new word, but not its meaning.

 

[darlacat]

You might feel the need to fit into a group but I have no desire to and no need to. And being one thing or liking a certain drink isn’t a group it’s a lifestyle choice. So yes I would just answer male. But this has very little to do with black pudding

Lifestyle choices - what you choose to drink, choose to eat, music you choose to listen to, sports you choose to follow, the books and papers you choose to read, political parties and views you align with - make up your identity, whether consciously or sub-consciously. Same goes for where you're from, who you're friends with, social class, work, sexuality, sex and gender (yes, these are different things), etc., etc. Identity is rather complex - you can't say you're just a man and have no identity other than that, as it is impossible!

The fact you chose to identify as 'male' in response to @Binkei Huckaback 's comment is actually quite loaded. Yes, you have a penis and testicles, so therefore are male, that is biological fact, but that wasn't really what you meant in your response, was it? Otherwise you could have just answered 'human with penis'?

 

[Donegal john]

Lifestyle choices - what you choose to drink, choose to eat, music you choose to listen to, sports you choose to follow, the books and papers you choose to read, political parties and views you align with - make up your identity, whether consciously or sub-consciously. Same goes for where you're from, who you're friends with, social class, work, sexuality, sex and gender (yes, these are different things), etc., etc. Identity is rather complex - you can't say you're just a man and have no identity other than that, as it is impossible!

The fact you chose to identify as 'male' in response to @Binkei Huckaback 's comment is actually quite loaded. Yes, you have a penis and testicles, so therefore are male, that is biological fact, but that wasn't really what you meant in your response, was it? Otherwise you could have just answered 'human with penis'?

Thanks for telling me what I meant to write

 

[Gingerbrews]

I can't stand chips.
Does that make me a Chipolatta?

 

[Donegal john]

I can't stand chips.
Does that make me a Chipolatta?

No just weird

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I can't stand chips.

Wood or Spud?

 

[Clint]

Computer?

 

[Donegal john]

On your shoulder ?

 

[MmmBeer]

The term that people find most offensive in this

So your wife is vegan but eats animal products when it suits and your daughter is Vegetarian but eats animals when it suits.

Surely that makes your wife not vegan and your daughter not vegetarian.

This is the reason that certain people choose to 'identify' as a something or other, it's so they can pretend to be something they're not, in order to seek attention.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

It was far easier back in the day when we had meat eaters and vegetarians and no subcategories.

 

[Jim Brewster]

I'm eating Linda McCartney's mozzarella quarter pounder, which sounds a bit rude but it's very tasty for a non-meat product which I'm not usually keen on.

My pronouns are he/him/his

 

[Doode67]

Because it’s a made up word to allow people to jump on the vegetarian bandwagon and jump off again when they fancy a steak

Each year there are hundreds of new words created. I think that is quite a good one as it actually describes the function of the word. Why are you so aggressive towards vegan and vegetarian people? Feeling guilty? Or just can't cope with something different? I have been vegetarian for 40 years and vegan for 5 year. My personality has not changed. I love my food and my motorbikes and my beer. But prejudices for no reason in my opinion are out of order who ever they are aimed at.. . .