Vegetarians and Vegans

[Rodcx500z]

All i will say is you want to be veggie or vegan, just don't tell me what to eat or i will slap you round the chops

 

[Galena]

I can understand Veganism, I could even be vegetarian if I could be bothered as I don't eat a lot of meat because I dislike a lot of modern farming practices. However I do find vegans (some) can be quite extreme with their views against meat eaters and yet many I consider hypocritical in that their morals are lacking when it comes to eating Palm Oil which is responsible for the cruel slaughter of much wildlife. The Vegan Society for example are quite happy to endorse products containing Palm Oil and only actually care about farmed animals.

 

[ChrisR73]

Can someone tell me please why a Vegan OR a Vegetarian wishes to eat a meat flavoured product! I give you ...

Find Out Where Our FAVE Vegan Meatballs Are From

... and again ask "WHY?"

That’s quite an easy one - the manufacturer is simply appealing to a wider market.
14% of UK adults describe themselves as flexitarian, which is more than twice the total of vegetarians and vegans combined.
Also as most of their target consumers have eaten meat it makes perfect sense to aim for a reasonable alternative - I for one love a good steak but I’m very happy to eat Quorn in many meals but probably wouldn’t choose tofu curry or aubergine stew.
It’s very much like the dairy-free market trying hard to mimic milk, cheese and butter - it’s what people are most familiar with and so know how to use.
But I wonder how many carnivores have never realised that their beef and onion crisps don’t actually contain any meat products at all…

 

[ChrisR73]

I remember having some Linda McCartney sausages in the 90's. That put me off eating anything made to look like meat forever.
I think the main ingredient was recycled empty toilet rolls.......

Luckily they are a lot better nowadays.
My biggest issue is the texture, almost everything is so soft it’s like a holiday for your teeth.

 

[ChrisR73]

Someone explain plant based....what plants?

Soy mainly.
Also pea protein, potato extracts and other vegetables.
Quorn use fermented fungi - so not strictly plant-based as they often use egg whites as a binder too.
It’s also a good catch-all term that covers meat free without mentioning meat - after all, that has generated some controversy.
Not sure why, Richmonds have been making sausages with more rusk than pork for decades but no one seems to care…

 

[Donegal john]

I really have no idea why ??
this just takes the psis

 

[MmmBeer]

I really have no idea why ??
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The one that got me was meat free meatballs.

WT*, surely that's just ba**s.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

 

[Donegal john]

That’s quite an easy one - the manufacturer is simply appealing to a wider market.
14% of UK adults describe themselves as flexitarian, which is more than twice the total of vegetarians and vegans combined.
Also as most of their target consumers have eaten meat it makes perfect sense to aim for a reasonable alternative - I for one love a good steak but I’m very happy to eat Quorn in many meals but probably wouldn’t choose tofu curry or aubergine stew.
It’s very much like the dairy-free market trying hard to mimic milk, cheese and butter - it’s what people are most familiar with and so know how to use.
But I wonder how many carnivores have never realised that their beef and onion crisps don’t actually contain any meat products at all…

What’s a flexitirian ??
like non binary for food choice ?
there’s a new pc term for everything these days it seems

 

[Galena]

I really have no idea why ??
this just takes the psis

I always thought they were pretty meat free anyway, just blood, fat and barley?

 

[ChrisR73]

What’s a flexitirian ??
like non binary for food choice ?
there’s a new pc term for everything these days it seems

Why would you think it is a PC term?
It’s a demographic and accurately describes people who sometimes deliberately abstain from meat but still enjoy meat as part of their normal diet.

 

[Donegal john]

Why would you think it is a PC term?
It’s a demographic and accurately describes people who sometimes deliberately abstain from meat but still enjoy meat as part of their normal diet.

Because it’s a made up word to allow people to jump on the vegetarian bandwagon and jump off again when they fancy a steak

 

[ChrisR73]

Because it’s a made up word to allow people to jump on the vegetarian bandwagon and jump off again when they fancy a steak

All words are made up, there is no bandwagon and I think you’re seriously overthinking this.

 

[Clint]

Why have a word to describe eating both meat and veg other than omnivore? It's just trying to sound a bit exclusive...
I wonder if in the future some nutcase violent person may be called a "grannytarian" as whereas they'll beat up anyone they fancy on a whim they only do granny bashing on the second Wednesday in a month...

 

[Donegal john]

All words are made up, there is no bandwagon and I think you’re seriously overthinking this.

Im not overthinking it. I only eat meat when I want to but I’m not any sort of ‘aterian. Why does a word need to exist for what has been around for generations ? So it’s a made up word so someone feels they can fit in. And the bandwagon exists as it’s now very ‘pc’ for people to describe themselves as a certain thing so they can fit in to a certain demographic. Be what you want but you don’t need a label or a box to be it. Simple.

 

[Donegal john]

Why have a word to describe eating both meat and veg other than omnivore? It's just trying to sound a bit exclusive...
I wonder if in the future some nutcase violent person may be called a "grannytarian" as whereas they'll beat up anyone they fancy on a whim they only do granny bashing on the second Wednesday in a month...

Or if you wanted to be a familyaterian where you only have to speak to certain members of your family at certain times of the year. oh wait I think that already happens ........

 

[Donegal john]

I always thought they were pretty meat free anyway, just blood, fat and barley?

Yep your correct no meat as such. Can’t see too many vegetarians going for it though on the basis that it’s meat free lol

 

[Clint]

I think some people like to be labelled as they've got nowt else to talk about that's remotely interesting...AND you can probably go on the sick with it and get a medal.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

What’s a flexitirian ??
like non binary for food choice ?
there’s a new pc term for everything these days it seems

Well you did ask


Flexitarian:

This includes people who eat mostly vegetarian but occasionally eat meat which includes red meat, poultry, seafood and fish. Also referred to as a semi-vegetarian, when they do choose to meat, it’s sometimes free-range or organic animal products. There is no firm definition as to how much meat you should eat during the week, whether it’s once a day, once a week or occasionally, this diet is up to the individual person.


Pescatarian:

This diet abstains from eating all meat and animal flesh (like red meat and poultry) with the exception of fish. A pescatarian is someone who maintains a vegetarian diet with the addition of fish and other seafood like shrimp, mussels, salmon, crabs and lobster.

However, a pescatarian is not considered a vegetarian—the diets are separate from each other. A vegetarian diet excludes all animals.

Pescatarians are allowed beans and legumes like tofu and tempeh, vegetables, grains, fruits and dairy products. One benefit of this diet is the moderate consumption of fish or fish oils, which are high in Omega-3 fatty acids, a necessary part of one’s diet.



Macrobiotic:

Popularized by the Japanese, the Macrobiotic diet isn’t just about eating certain foods, it’s also about achieving balance in your life through food choices. Macrobiotic dieters are encouraged to eat regularly, chew their food thoughtfully, listen to their bodies, be active and maintain a positive mental outlook.

Macrobiotic eaters can have whole grains, vegetables and beans. About 40-60 percent of the diet should be organically-grown whole grains, like brown rice, barley, millet, oats and corn. 20 to 30 percent of the diet should be vegetables (with a high emphasis on Asian vegetables like daikon and bok choy, and sea vegetables, like seaweed, nori and agar). 5 to 10 percent of the diet is dedicated to beans and legumes, like tofu and tempeh.

You can have fresh fish and seafood, locally-grown fruit, pickles and nuts. Rice syrup is one of the sweeteners you can have occasionally.

Macrobiotic eaters do not eat dairy, eggs, poultry, red meat, refined sugars along with tropical fruits, fruit juice and certain vegetables like asparagus, eggplant, spinach, tomatoes and zucchini. Also, anything spicy is strongly discouraged along with strong alcoholic beverages, soda, coffee and anything refined, processed or chemically-preserved.

This diet even goes as far as to determine which kind of kitchenware to use. Cooking utensils should be made from certain materials such as wood or glass, while some materials like plastic, copper and non-stick coatings should be avoided.

 

[Donegal john]

Well you did ask


Flexitarian:

This includes people who eat mostly vegetarian but occasionally eat meat which includes red meat, poultry, seafood and fish. Also referred to as a semi-vegetarian, when they do choose to meat, it’s sometimes free-range or organic animal products. There is no firm definition as to how much meat you should eat during the week, whether it’s once a day, once a week or occasionally, this diet is up to the individual person.


Pescatarian:

This diet abstains from eating all meat and animal flesh (like red meat and poultry) with the exception of fish. A pescatarian is someone who maintains a vegetarian diet with the addition of fish and other seafood like shrimp, mussels, salmon, crabs and lobster.

However, a pescatarian is not considered a vegetarian—the diets are separate from each other. A vegetarian diet excludes all animals.

Pescatarians are allowed beans and legumes like tofu and tempeh, vegetables, grains, fruits and dairy products. One benefit of this diet is the moderate consumption of fish or fish oils, which are high in Omega-3 fatty acids, a necessary part of one’s diet.



Macrobiotic:

Popularized by the Japanese, the Macrobiotic diet isn’t just about eating certain foods, it’s also about achieving balance in your life through food choices. Macrobiotic dieters are encouraged to eat regularly, chew their food thoughtfully, listen to their bodies, be active and maintain a positive mental outlook.

Macrobiotic eaters can have whole grains, vegetables and beans. About 40-60 percent of the diet should be organically-grown whole grains, like brown rice, barley, millet, oats and corn. 20 to 30 percent of the diet should be vegetables (with a high emphasis on Asian vegetables like daikon and bok choy, and sea vegetables, like seaweed, nori and agar). 5 to 10 percent of the diet is dedicated to beans and legumes, like tofu and tempeh.

You can have fresh fish and seafood, locally-grown fruit, pickles and nuts. Rice syrup is one of the sweeteners you can have occasionally.

Macrobiotic eaters do not eat dairy, eggs, poultry, red meat, refined sugars along with tropical fruits, fruit juice and certain vegetables like asparagus, eggplant, spinach, tomatoes and zucchini. Also, anything spicy is strongly discouraged along with strong alcoholic beverages, soda, coffee and anything refined, processed or chemically-preserved.

This diet even goes as far as to determine which kind of kitchenware to use. Cooking utensils should be made from certain materials such as wood or glass, while some materials like plastic, copper and non-stick coatings should be avoided.

I lost the will to live half way through reading about a macrobiotic
At least the vegans never made the cut they would need at least 4 pages to detail what they can’t eat