us-05 or californian

[robsan77]

is there much difference or doesnt it matter really?

 

[Aleman]

Same thing US-05 = Chico = Californian = Ballantyne

 

[rickthebrew]

:wha: does that mean they are one and the same?

 

[Aleman]

The information I have certainly implies that . . . I can't say for certain without doing a DNA analysis of each strain, but the source I have is reliable

 

[rickthebrew]

So there would possibly be no difference between pitching dried us-05 or a liquid yeast starter ? Is there a yeast you would reccomend for hoppy pale ales ?

 

[robsan77]

So I could save myself a fiver and just use us-05 eh? :hmm:

 

[jamesb]

Yep. I wouldn't bother with wlp001 myself unless i was making at least 10bbl. Price isn't worth it compared to the dried uk-05 (see what i did there...)

 

[jamesb]

Congrats on the 1000th post too.

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[robsan77]

Congrats on the 1000th post too.

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:lol: :lol: oh the power of the mods!

 

[mysterio]

I've used both extensively and the US-05 consistently attenuates significantly further and doesn't taste as clean, I tend to get a bit of an alcohol note from it. I now never use US-05 but use WLP001 quite a bit as the beers turn out much better. They are not necessarily genetically identical and the drying process can change the characteristics of yeast.

That said I do get good results from a re-pitch of US-05.

As for the cost I split a tube 3 ways and store them in the fridge, just from one of those splits I have made 30 gallons of beer through 3 generations.

 

[Aleman]

The drying process can change the characteristics of yeast.

And that was a point I was going to make this morning Personally given the opportunity I would always prefer to use liquid yeast rather than the same yeast dried.

 

[richc]

I'm pretty certain WLP001 == Wyeast 1056 == Sierra Nevada's standard yeast, but I have only seen assumptions that US-05 is the same thing.

http://www.brew365.com/yeast_us56.php

 

[mysterio]

I have been meaning to to a side by side with the two yeasts, I think it would be a good experiment.

Despite my slagging it is clearly possible to make great beer with US-05. I tried Dunfie's Punk IPA clone with US-05 and it was great. There is no doubt in my mind though that when I make beer with US-05 it doesn't turn out as good as when I use WLP001. It could be for any number of reasons. I would love just to be able to throw a pack of yeast in the wort. Also I think Nottingham makes a cleaner, better tasting beer than US-05.

One last thing, the cost argument is a little less compelling now that Fermentis have put the kibosh on repackaging dried yeast... :x

 

[BarnsleyBrewer]

One last thing, the cost argument is a little less compelling now that Fermentis have put the kibosh on repackaging dried yeast... :x

Have I missed something regarding re-packaged yeast?
Has BarleyBottom and MaltMiller been stopped from splitting packs?? :wha:

 

[phettebs]

I pretty much always use US-05 for my hoppy American beers. But last month I bought Wyeast 1056 and used it on my Cascade Pale Ale. I will harvest that yeast and use it for the foreseeable future. I've always had good luck with 1056 in the past. Then again, US-05 works a champ too.

 

[leedsbrew]

One last thing, the cost argument is a little less compelling now that Fermentis have put the kibosh on repackaging dried yeast... :x

Have I missed something regarding re-packaged yeast?
Has BarleyBottom and MaltMiller been stopped from splitting packs?? :wha:

Yep! :twisted:

 

[markp]

One last thing, the cost argument is a little less compelling now that Fermentis have put the kibosh on repackaging dried yeast... :x

Have I missed something regarding re-packaged yeast?
Has BarleyBottom and MaltMiller been stopped from splitting packs?? :wha:

Yep! :twisted:

It's never been a practice I've been particularly fond of.

 

[Sean_Mc]

Why have they been stopped and how, not heard of this before :wha:

 

[mysterio]

Why have they been stopped

££££££

You know, the lucrative home brewers dried yeast market :hmm:

 

[robsan77]

looks like I'll be splitting my own dried yeast then. :)