Turbo Cider

[commsbiff]

Hmmm. Still not bubbling at 3h15m after pitching at 19.6 deg C. Should I be worried or wait til morning? I have wine yeast or Safale 04 I could chuck on top?

 

[Vossy1]

I'd give it t'ill morning, it'll be fine :thumb:

 

[prolix]

i use saf 04 now with mine, but give it a chance, them yeastie beasties have been dehydrated for a long time. When i used bread yeast there was hardly a head air lock bubbles and flocculation were only give awys that anythng ( bloody keys keep moving sagain) was happening

 

[commsbiff]

Cheers gents. It's a real pleasure being able to pick your collective minds. Keep up the good work. :clap:

Oh - I though flocculation and head (or frothing) were the same thing? no?

 

[Vossy1]

Very kind of you c

 

[Aleman]

Flocculation is the term used to describe the clumping of yeast cells, generally toward the end of fermentation.

It is also used to describe a meeting of brewers

 

[commsbiff]

:grin: Still no bubbling, but the water in the air lock has moved round - with the increased pressure? Hopefully later then...

 

[aeddon]

right then got a couple of small batches of TC on the go. As always i start being very scientific and measured but end up a mad professor, bit of this bit of that, so not sure about amouts.

First batch with 4 litres of aj, plus one bottle of concentrate and a heavy jug of elderflower cordial, diluted to 6 litres to give me an OG 1062

second batch was supposed to be the control but ended up putting a dash of elderflower cordial, lemon and orange peel, and 200g of white sugar OG 1060, then i put some more in?!?

250ml of aj and one sachet of windsor yeast splt between the he two batches and 12hrs laters, a heavy frothy head has formed and its on its way.

 

[aeddon]

Hi

quick question. I put a crushed campdon tablet in the TC yesterday to halt fermenting at 1012, but its still bubbling away, and quite fast too. how long does campdon take to work?

 

[tubby_shaw]

Simple answer is, that a campden tablet will not arrest an active fermentation
If you are trying to stop the fermentation your best bet is to chill it down to around 5 C (or lower if you can) wait for the yeast to drop out of suspension, rack off of the yeast deposit and then add a campden tablet and potassium sorbate :thumb:

 

[aeddon]

mmmm, cant get to the brew shop till tomorrow, wonder how dry/strong it will get in two days? Cheers for that, out of curiosity, what the campden for the?

 

[aeddon]

I'm a little confused, ripped this from wiki:

ripped this from wiki:

"Campden tablets are also used towards the end of the fermentation process to halt the ferment before all the available sugars are converted by the yeast, hence controlling the amount of residual sweetness in the final product. This balancing between sweet, dry and tart flavors is part of the artistry of wine and cider making."

but to be honest i'm easily confused

 

[tubby_shaw]

Campden tabs or sodium metabisulphate is a yeast inhibitor and will not kill healthy yeast. As wiki says they can be used at the end of a fermentation, but at a gravity of 1.012 you probably have 17 point of gravity to go, so not at the end There are a lot of healthy yeast cells munching on that sugar :party: so a little sodium met isn't going to slow them down :thumb:
Hence the need to chill and drop out as much yeast as possible to give it a chance :)

 

[arturobandini]

There will be a certain amount of vapour produced by the sodium met too which would cause bubbling through your airlock.

 

[aeddon]

Ok, i added fermentation stopper, potassium sorbate, on the 23rd and have swirled it a few times every day as instructed but its still bubbling like mad and doesnt seem to be wanting to stop either. Coming through the airlock about every 10 seconds. The og was 1060 and took a reading on the 21st at 1010/12, so god knows what it is now?

I'm afraid to have a naked flame near it in case it ignites!!!! Guess i'll sell it to nasa as space fuel

 

[tubby_shaw]

For those of you who don't know I am a TC snob :lol:

To this end I have purchased another one of THESE

This yeast will turn ordinary AJ into great cider every time :party:

Once it arrives and I have made 20L I will have plenty to distribute if anybody would like to try it for themselves ?

 

[trunky]

For those of you who don't know I am a TC snob :lol:

To this end I have purchased another one of THESE

This yeast will turn ordinary AJ into great cider every time :party:

Once it arrives and I have made 20L I will have plenty to distribute if anybody would like to try it for themselves ?

Do you mean cider or yeast.......

 

[tubby_shaw]

Yeast :thumb:

 

[falafael]

i thought you meant giving TC away...yes, i'll have a few of those.... :whistle:

 

[trunky]

That will be very interesting. I have been happy with the Young's cider yeast so far and the latest TC made with the 'not from concentrate' cloudy juice is excellent.