Stout, too late for Christmas?

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OK, this might seem daft, but....

I just realised it's only a couple of months now until the dreaded / longed for day. I like a pint or so of stout around Christmas and thought I'd get a brew on, been thinking about it since August when it was too hot to brew....

If I get the brew on next Saturday, will it have matured by the holiday period?

I've seen a few posts on here about high abv stout needing a long time in the bottle / keg to get the flavours right.

If it wont. are there any alternative that will have that nice burnt, bitter, coffee, chocolate type taste of a good stout?
 
Rule of thumb is 1 week conditioning for every point of ABV. So, It's 10 weeks to Christmas; 2 weeks fermenting, then 2 weeks carbonating, leaves you 6 weeks conditioning time. So, as long as it's below 6% ABV, it would probably be OK!
 
I do " stout " types of around 5% they are very drinkable within 6 weeks, no problem
 
Ta, it's going to be in that region, worst (best?) case will see it at 7.5% and I'm not going to drink all of it at christmas :)

I've also got a special request brew to get done for my parents, they tried the "most peculiar" I brewed from a recipe by someone on here and now want a case of it.... I'll tell them not to drink it until new year's eve :D
 
If you brew a strong stout now it will be ready for Christmas. 2014. In fact RIS needs 18 months to mature so perhaps 2015.
 
Perhaps try alemans effin oatmeal stout? Mine is almost ready to bottle and due to lowish efficiency :whistle:, its going to work out at about 3.9%... so conditioning time should be shorter
 
rpt said:
If you brew a strong stout now it will be ready for Christmas. 2014. In fact RIS needs 18 months to mature so perhaps 2015.

So best to cut the grain bill back a bit from the 7.5% monster I was dreaming of then? At least until a bit later when I can brew one for 2014 :)
 
Stout:
Generally dark brown to black in color, stouts are originally an English style of beer that has also become popular among American brewers. This category also serves as a catch-all for experimental stouts that don't fit into other stout categories. Stouts tend to have a strong roasted malt flavor that often tastes of coffee, dark/bittersweet chocolate, and/or caramel. This flavor is sometimes slightly burnt tasting. This style usually has low sweetness and higher bitterness. Hop flavor can run the gamut of low to high presences. Alcohol flavors are sometimes present. ABV is usually between 4.5-7.5% and IBUs between 35-75.

Dry Stout:
Also known as an Irish Stout, the dry stout was derived from the English porter style and is dark brown to jet black in color. This style has a medium roasted malt character with a coffee finish, and often a bittersweet or unsweetened chocolate note. This creamy beer style has a medium to high hop bitterness with very little hop flavor. As the name suggests, this style has a very dry finish. The ABV is usually between 4-6% and the IBUs are 30-45.
Murphys Irish Stout

Foreign Style Stout:
In the past, these were sometimes known as "Tropical Stouts" as they were brewed for export to tropical locations. They were originally higher gravity, stronger beers that encompassed a fairly wide range of characteristics. Even today, these can be fruity and sweet (tropical versions) or dry and bitter (export versions). They typically have a high malt profile that should lack the sharpness of a dry stout. Either version may include coffee and chocolate flavors. The hop bitterness will typically be moderate to none and the hop flavor will be almost non-detectable. The ABV is usually around 5.5-8% and the IBUs between 30-70.

Imperial Stout:
This style is also known as Russian Imperial Stout because these beers were originally brewed by England for export to Russia as they were popular with the imperial court there. Now, this style is very popular among American brewers who have built on the style. The color ranges from dark brown to jet black. These beers are very rich and complex. The flavors typically include roasted chocolate, cocoa, and/or coffee and can have hints of caramel and/or toasty flavors. Dark fruit flavors can range from non-existant to very strong. Hop flavor is usually moderate to high with high levels of hop bitterness. American versions tend to be more heavily hopped. Alcohol flavor and warming are usually present. The mouthfeel is usually very thick and creamy. The ABV ranges from 8-13+% and the IBUs from 50-100+.

Oatmeal Stout:
Originally an English stout version that offers a sweetness level between a standard stout and a sweet stout, although this can vary. This style is brown to black in color. The oatmeal creates a silky mouthfeel that becomes oily when large amounts of oatmeal are used. The flavor usually consists of various levels of oatmeal, milk chocolate and/or creamy coffee. Oatmeal stouts usually have medium hop bitterness and very little hop flavor. ABV is usually between 4.5-7% and IBUs between 25-40.

Sweet Stout:
This is another English style of stout that has also been known as "Milk Stout" or "Cream Stout", although it is not legal to call them this in England anymore. These names were derived because of the use of lactose or milk sugar to sweeten the beer. The color of these beers is dark brown to black in color. The flavor is dominated by dark grains and malts with mid to high levels of sweetness (often from lactose). Coffee and/or chocolate flavors may be present. The roasted malt flavor and hop bitterness last into the finish. Overall, these beers are creamy and often taste like sweet espresso. American varieties tend to be higher gravity than their English counterparts. ABV usually ranges from 4.5-6.5% and IBUs from 25-40.

Plenty of styles to choose from
 
I brewed the Guinness stout in the Graham Wheeler book and its superb, that would definitely be ready to drink for Xmas and it's very easy drinking at around 4.2%.
 
Can anyone recommend any stout kits? I've tried the festival porter which was very nice and I'm keen to try another.

P.S. Thanks for the info Piddledribble, very interesting.
 
St Peters have a new cream stout out and their beers are usually very good. Coopers stout is excellent, but make it with malt, not sugar.
 
I've just put a stout on, in the hope it will be ready for Christmas. I picked up a Wilkos velvet stout for £8 so I bunged this in with 1kg DME and 500g demerera sugar as well as a little bit of coffee steeped in cold water - it blew all the water out of my airlock on day 2! Only just started brewing so my calculations aren't particularly reliable yet but I've worked it out at about 5-5.5%
 
I too have just put a coopers stout on with 500g extra dme and 500 g wheat malt and made up to 22 litres . On day 2 it had blown all the water out of the air lock and some stout all over the lid of the fv but it smells lovely tho . :cheers:
 
low abv + cold conditioning = probably decent for christmas. I'm just brewing up my christmas beers now, but I'm happy to drink a month from brew day usually.
 
dozgladman said:
I too have just put a coopers stout on with 500g extra dme and 500 g wheat malt and made up to 22 litres . On day 2 it had blown all the water out of the air lock and some stout all over the lid of the fv but it smells lovely tho . :cheers:

My first Cooper's stout blew my 2 piece airlock apart and sprayed itself onto the ceiling (I didn't like the decor in the kitchen anyway, so no big loss), problem being it did it while I was away on business, it was a case of brew on Saturday fly on Monday, scare sh1t out of wife on Tuesday = have to work out what I can afford in duty free on the way back on Wednesday.... :D

Apparently Stouts are well know for 'vigorous' fermentation, and if you 'play with them' (I'd added a few things like 500g of spray malt, 450g of treacle and a hop tea) they can get even more vigorous!!

The kitchen is now a nice mellow yellow, painted with that special dulux stuff that is guaranteed washable for the next stout brew :)
 
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