Sterilising and rinsing

[corby_brewer]

Everyone should though do what they want

Agreed :thumb:
And i will continue to rince my equipment with un-treated tap water .

 

[snail59]

I go out for the day and look what happens. Cant I leave you lot unsupervised for 5 minutes :rofl:

To complicate things I sterilize with thin bleach at 25ml per ltr then rince with tap water. (even though I think that is a NO RINCE solution)

I treat my brewing water with campden tablets.

Clean with Oxy and warm water.

I think its like a lot of things its down to personal choice. If it was down to Mrs Snail she would use boiling water on every thing an call that done. To me thats not enough.

I use carbonation drops so how do I sterilize those

 

[GazOC]

I use carbonation drops so how do I sterilize those

Suck 'em after using mouthwash?

 

[tubby_shaw]

Just my 2p worth, I clean with whichever un perfumed percarbonate I can get and rinse with tap hot water.
I then generally sanitise with a no rinse solution of Videne :thumb:
Why?
Two reasons
1. If I forget to rinse an item of equipment I am not going to get that TCP taste :sick:
2. VIDENE in a no rinse solution costs less than 1p per litre and can be used in a spray bottle to just wet the surface to be sanitised, whereas VWP costs 3.5p per litre and has to be made up into a large enough volume to soak items to be sanitised.
No contest :party:

 

[Moley]

And to add my two penn'orth, I'm with Dave on this, all of my equipment and bottles are washed in hot, soapy water, sterilised with proprietary powders or cheap bleach and rinsed thoroughly with tap water. At the risk of tempting providence, and touching wood while I type this, I've never had an infection yet.

Furthermore, my brewing liquor might be treated with campdens and then boiled, but the vast majority of water I use in winemaking comes straight out of the tap and isn't treated, (edit)... although campdens will always be added at some point during the process, so if there is any chlorine present I assume that will be dealt with later.

 

[snail59]

I think there is only one way to settle this.

So in the words of Harry Hill.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

 

[Wez]

No rinse and not needing to touch wood here :thumb:

I'm sure rinsing with tap water will serve most well, I'm just minimising the risk (as I've said)

 

[Moley]

I'm sure rinsing with tap water will serve most well, I'm just minimising the risk (as I've said)

Fairy nuff :thumb:
I've never used Videne, but might give it a try.

 

[chiefstoker]

I sterilise all equipment with Bull Camel urine which i have specially imported from Saudi Arabia, it works really well but most of my brews taste like p1ss for some reason


: CS

 

[Tony]

:rofl:

 

[Aleman]

Just to clarify a couple of points.

The issue with chlorine in the water is only of importance to beer makers as it reacts with phenols from the malt and hops to create TCP

Beer kit twang (That Homebrew Taste) is nothing like TCP.

There are no beer spoilage organisms found in tap water, which is why you can get away with rinsing with untreated tap water, then draining.

I have in the past cleaned and sanitised my equipment to the point of OCD levels Now I use percarbonate/Washing Soda/Caustic Soda/Antiformin to clean . . . rinse with untreated water . . . and then a no rinse spray or recirc of Videne or peracetic.

I would avoid using washing soap in the beer brewery as the surfactants used to make it cling can be a buggery to wash off and will kill head instantly. . . My glasses are hand washed and then rinsed 3 times in very hot water before drying (Did I mention that I can be a bit OCD about these things :lol:)

The commercial breweries I have been involved with either use (Depending on size) a Clean In Place regime of Hot Caustic / Hot water / Acid / Peracetic acid or Send Brewery Apprentice into vessel with Green scrubby, Pressure washer and cold water to clean . . . followed by peracetic acid to disinfect (Usually through a CIP head or a fogger).

We can be a bit too anal about disinfection . . . but when you invest 10-12 hours making and kegging a batch of beer is complacency worth the risk? .. . . . How much is your time worth?

 

[snail59]

How much is your time worth?

According to my BOSS buggerall :rofl:

 

[BarnsleyBrewer]

How much is your time worth?

According to my BOSS buggerall :rofl:

Snap

 

[GazOC]

So this Videne just needs to be sprayed on and then doesn't need to be rinsed off?

 

[snail59]

So this Videne just needs to be sprayed on and then doesn't need to be rinsed off?

It needs diluting before its sprayed on.

 

[GazOC]

So this Videne just needs to be sprayed on and then doesn't need to be rinsed off?

It needs diluting before its sprayed on.

Thanks, I'll give it a go. I'm on a water meter so this will cut down my production costs... :

 

[Tony]

... production costs... :

Hmmm... production costs, the bit I conveniently leave out when the missus asks how much everything is costing

 

[GazOC]

... production costs... :

Hmmm... production costs, the bit I conveniently leave out when the missus asks how much everything is costing

I just vaguely mutter something about "it works out about 50p a pint" and leave it at that...

 

[snail59]

... production costs... :

Hmmm... production costs, the bit I conveniently leave out when the missus asks how much everything is costing

I just vaguely mutter something about "it works out about 50p a pint" and leave it at that...

Get a Wurzels Orange Wine & a Cheeky Vimto done if your other half is like mine once they have sampled those they kind of forget about PRODUCTION COSTS :grin: :drunk: :whistle:

 

[jonewer]

Of course the reason I use Videne has less to do with me not trusting tap water and a lot more to do with me not being bothered rinsing things a half dozen times.

Videne is really much simpler, and I think the reason I like AG better than kits is that its a much easier sanitation regime with AG. Just add Videne to FV with paddle in. Pour off excess. Job done!