dennisking
Regular.
Certainly a few things to think about. Out of interest where is your company based naturals. Like Dave we are looking at ideas for long term investments with some inheritance money and so far this does look promising.
naturals said:If you got Sunpower modules for that price that's a very good deal indeed! Those things are crazy expensive! The material price we pay is roughly double what some other manufacturers charge. Out of interest what was the premium inverter you had fitted with them?
dennisking said:Certainly a few things to think about. Out of interest where is your company based naturals. Like Dave we are looking at ideas for long term investments with some inheritance money and so far this does look promising.
Dave1970 said:That's nice to hear......I've copied details direct from the quote...although you have me worried that the inverter might not be 'premium' now - when I asked about the lifespan (having heard the same as others about limited lifespan) I was told it wouldn't be a problem with SMA
Robbo said:is free.
Robbo said:This company is the one that are going to install solar panels on my roof.
http://ashadegreener.co.uk/
As has bee said earlier in the thread, it's a rented roof scheme so the panels, instillation and maintenance is free.
PaulCa said:Robbo said:is free.
Nothing is free.
Not free. Someone else pays.Teenage Kicks said:PaulCa said:Robbo said:is free.
Nothing is free.
yes it is, free loft and cavity wall insulation has been around for years, free boilers for people in vulnerable groups like the disbaled and the elderly have been around for about a year now
the free panels work by you not getting the profits from the feed in tariff but instead just benefitting from the free electricity that is produced by them, personally i would buy them rather than go for this scheme because you will end up better off.
there are some things that have been in the news recently such as ECO - the eneregy company obligation and CSCO the carbon saving comunity obligation that have replaced the old CERO carbon emision reduction target that actualy require the big energy companys to spend some of there profits on helping the poorest and most vulnerable people in the country
when you sign a contract to say its free, its free.
i work in a company that has built its whole buisness model on giving things away and asking the energy companys for the money instead and in 20 years have gone from a man with a van to 2500 employees in 4 countries (england, new zealend, australia, america) and are still doing very nicely
dennisking said:For Naturals, this is what we are considering,
4kw system
Phono solar 250 panels
Enphase micro inverter
Enphase monitor
with iboost
£6,662 thoughts please.
grandelf said:if you are thinking about them, check your insurence.
Many companys wont cover them, or roof damage as they are extra load on the house that shouldnt really be there.
naturals said:That's a pretty good price for a micro inverter system. I presume you have some shading issues to be considering micro inverters? If it's a clear roof (IMO) they're not really worth the extra expense - you'd be better with a central 3680w inverter which should knock a few hundred quid off the price. Also it'd be worth checking which spec of Phono Solar panels they're using. These days the black edged / backed panels literally cost pounds extra (£4-5 per panel on some of the ones from my supplier) - over a 16 panel system you're talking £100 extra but aesthetically they can make all the difference on some buildings.
Any idea what mounting system they're using? Schuco are probably the best made out there. Schletter and Mage pretty good. There are some really rough ones around though so worth asking!
Finally, I presume the micros have a 20-25 year warranty? That's fairly standard on micros these days.
dennisking said:naturals said:That's a pretty good price for a micro inverter system. I presume you have some shading issues to be considering micro inverters? If it's a clear roof (IMO) they're not really worth the extra expense - you'd be better with a central 3680w inverter which should knock a few hundred quid off the price. Also it'd be worth checking which spec of Phono Solar panels they're using. These days the black edged / backed panels literally cost pounds extra (£4-5 per panel on some of the ones from my supplier) - over a 16 panel system you're talking £100 extra but aesthetically they can make all the difference on some buildings.
Any idea what mounting system they're using? Schuco are probably the best made out there. Schletter and Mage pretty good. There are some really rough ones around though so worth asking!
Finally, I presume the micros have a 20-25 year warranty? That's fairly standard on micros these days.
The mounting system proposed is K2. They advised a micro inverter as we live in an area with a lot of bird activity and if one gets bird **** on it will only effect that area of the panel. Also as they will be east/west facing the micro inverter may better suited. The panel is black edged and with 5 year performance warranty 10 year product warranty.
LeithR said:@One eye,
Further to the exchange above about the discussions on the BBC. It was on Radio 4 today on "You and Yours" where the discussion took place and included in the discussions was a conversation about a person who was trying to sell his house and the person who wanted to buy it. The company who were renting the roof for solar panels were adamant they would not change the contract in the light of the house sale and thus bringing the sale of the house to a standstill. It was generally agreed in the studio that this was wrong but they also indicated that a small percentage of this type of installer was crooked in an unregulated market.
Very spookily - while I was typing this response I received a phone call from an installer who wanted to rent my roof. I couldn't tell him to P*** off quick enough!
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