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I've spent several years of my life developing a project to produce the funds necessary to enable implementation of those measures.
What's the project? The Human race deserves to die, complete extinction. And hopefully, no trace is ever left of us for anyone to find.
 
What's the point, more like.
I'm asking more out of curiosity. With what I do for a living and study, I have a pretty good perspective of all this and get quite a kick from people 'discussing' what they don't understand. I won't remove my original comment, but it was a bit harsh and unfair, it's the skeptics that make me laugh.
 
I don't think that any of us will make the slightest bit of difference by doing anything. So you may as well drive what you like, burn what you like and eat what you like until you are no more.

What will ultimately tip the balance to restore order is the good old fashioned Four Horsemen, and after that a decent sized chunk of a meteor.
There will be survivors...there always are, but hopefully they will have more sense than to populate the earth.

If you have ever gone down a coal mine (anybody? just me then with a weird childhood?) you will see there is a natural order to things. The lowest layer of coal - formed during a time of high CO2 when things grew well, was all felled - and buried within short order by a massive impact that covered the lot with 30 feet or so of sand and mud. Then another layer of woodland built up, and another 30 feet or so of sand and sediment on top and so on and so forth like a giant geological clock.

Likewise with oil. Oil is formed of decomposing life - all in one go. Something swept the land clean then covered it in sand and silt in one swift move - quick enough that nothing ate anything that was in the water.

The only problem with all the plastic in the world now is that when it happens again someone...somewhere will eventually see us as the "Plasticine era" due to the thin layer of plastic left as a deposit in the rock strata, and see that we worshipped the great God Pepsi.
 
It's not all "Doom and Gloom!" :tongue:

Many years ago, I read that the last thing to survive on earth would look into the sunset over a deserted landscape that had been subjected to a nuclear holocaust. This was during the "Cold War" when nuclear war was threatening and the "survivor" in question was a cockroach.

This was before "Genetic Engineering" was discovered, so I presume that all we need to do to prevent the current "Armageddon" is to genetically engineer a cockroach that:
  • Eats plastic.
  • Chemically adjusts the plastic in its gut so that the insects waste becomes non-toxic to all other forms of life.
  • Tastes delicious to humans. (I recommend "chocolate" as the preferred taste.)
We make dumping plastic into a water course a Capital Offence, let the genetically modified cockroaches loose on to our plastic dumps and then collect them and sell them to the general public in place of meat!

Simples! Problems solved! clapa clapa clapa
 
The only problem with all the plastic in the world now is that when it happens again someone...somewhere will eventually see us as the "Plasticine era" due to the thin layer of plastic left as a deposit in the rock strata, and see that we worshipped the great God Pepsi.
Surely geological pressures and millions of years will turn all this plastic into oil and gas, so that a future species can drive around in nice cars, or burn it to boil wort and make some delicious beer.
 
What's the project? The Human race deserves to die, complete extinction. And hopefully, no trace is ever left of us for anyone to find.
Maybe a very large part of the human race deserves to die, but not all of it, and I can't agree that no trace should be left. At the very least we should try to ensure that if we do become extinct, then we have done whatever we can to help any successors avoid the same fate. I have proposed a sub-project to try to achieve this [“If We Fail” project].

Unfortunately there is a significant possibility that we will have no successors. There is also a significant possibility that **** sapiens is alone in having a developed intelligence and in having created a technological civilisation, certainly in our galaxy if not in the universe. We have made a total f-up of it, but because of those possibilities I think we have a duty to try to secure the future of our species, but not at the cost of the degradation of our planetary biosphere. Ideally we should cut the human population down to a stable maximum of 1000 million or so, existing in a largely protected and un-sullied biosphere. Granted the necessary will and resources this could be achieved in less than a century, but the chance of the necessary will and resources materialising is approximately zero.

This forum is not really the place to go into all this more deeply, but I’ll attach a few PDFs of some bits which I’ve extracted from the project document which I wrote some years ago, in case either of you (Grizzly Notations & Gunge) (or anyone else) wants to read any more.
The bits are:
- a paragraph on our duty to preserve our species
- a paragraph and chart of the exploding human population
- a summary of the “If We Fail” project
- a simple chart showing the development of life on Earth. I put the whole lot onto one line to emphasise the evident enormous difficulty in the move from single-celled life to complex (multi-celled) life
- two appendices referred to in these bits of text, on Lagrange points and Von Neuman probes.
The footnote numbering reset itself in the extraction and conversion to PDFs, so ignore any discrepancies.
 

Attachments

  • Para - duty to preserve our species.pdf
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  • Para - human population.pdf
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  • [If We Fail project].pdf
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  • Development of life on Earth timeline (A4 landscape).pdf
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  • Appendix D - Lagrange points.pdf
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  • Appendix A - Von Neumann probes.pdf
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