Reliable car brands 2023

[Rodcx500z]

Any body who buys a diesel for pottering around deserves all they get, all of mine were petrols apart from the juke, 1.5 sunny estate, early primera i paid a grand for sold 5 years later for 400 quid with 125'000 on the clock, a 2L ur van which i hated nowt wrong with it i just didn't like it, and a juke diesel sold with 50,000 on it, and the juke i have now 1L 3 cylinder turbo which is a fantastic car, the only problems i had was drive shaft boots and back boxes, the worst car i have owned 61 plate focus absolute dog, the one with a million buttons on the dash

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Any body who buys a diesel for pottering around deserves all they get,

I think that's a bit harsh Rod the Government pushed Diesel and many including me fell for it it was supposed to be cleaner and the lower car tax was a huge draw (Corsa was £30) we now know it was BS.

Many motorists who believed the BS found after a while the DPF blocked because they were not driving it enough for the auto regen to do its job i never had any issues as my commute took me onto a dual carriageway every day so the old Corsa got a good blast twice a day, the *sales staff knew this was going on but gladly took money off customers knowing hey were going to have issues.

*The same sales staff are today selling hybrids to the same people who don't drive often and as the tiny 12v battery which only powers the 12v electrics (no starter motor etc) needs to be topped up regularly by driving or sitting in the car in READY mode many are finding their car wont start after a few days stood still it has got so bad customers are buying jump packs to keep in the glove box not to jump start the car (no starter motor) but to give the 12v system enough juice to persuade the "Big Battery" under the back seat to get the ICE going to charge the big and small battery .

I have a deep hatred of car sales men/women.

Why officials in Labour government pushed 'dash for diesel'​

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41985715#:~:text=The resulting financial incentive for,proportion of new car purchases.

 

[Rodcx500z]

I think that's a bit harsh Rod the Government pushed Diesel and many including me fell for it it was supposed to be cleaner and the lower car tax was a huge draw (Corsa was £30) we now know it was BS.

Many motorists who believed the BS found after a while the DPF blocked because they were not driving it enough for the auto regen to do its job i never had any issues as my commute took me onto a dual carriageway every day so the old Corsa got a good blast twice a day, the *sales staff knew this was going on but gladly took money off customers knowing hey were going to have issues.

*The same sales staff are today selling hybrids to the same people who don't drive often and as the tiny 12v battery which only powers the 12v electrics (no starter motor etc) needs to be topped up regularly by driving or sitting in the car in READY mode many are finding their car wont start after a few days stood still it has got so bad customers are buying jump packs to keep in the glove box not to jump start the car (no starter motor) but to give the 12v system enough juice to persuade the "Big Battery" under the back seat to get the ICE going to charge the big and small battery .

I have a deep hatred of car sales men/women.


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Why officials in Labour government pushed 'dash for diesel'​

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41985715#:~:text=The resulting financial incentive for,proportion of new car purchases.

The trick is do your homework before you splash your cash, ask misses cx500 i drive her nuts with research i don't trust ads or government stood me in good stead so far

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The trick is do your homework before you splash your cash,

To be fair there wasn't any homework to do -

Diesel cars did a lot more miles to the gallon back then as we were all running 1600 cc plus petrol's
(todays 1.0L turbo petrol engines that could rival diesel were unheard of so was belt in oil)

Diesel was several pence per litre cheaper than petrol.

Car tax was much lower for a diesel compared to petrol in many cases it was £0.

Diesel engines were far more reliable and lasted far longer if looked after.

Its not a wonder many switched then found they had a DPF that blocked because they didn't let the regen do its thing.

 

[Clint]

I've had 4 Nissans..zero problems. The DP filters only went in after 2010 I think. We had a 1.5 diesel Quashqai 2010 plate which was brilliant.
All brands have issues I think the big ones just keep it quiet!

 

[Rodcx500z]

To be fair there wasn't any homework to do -

Yes there is, when buying a car which is a fair wad of wonga, research is key more so today with all the systems they have on board

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Yes there is, when buying a car which is a fair wad of wonga, research is key more so today with all the systems they have on board

I was discussing 25+ years ago when the Government pushed Diesel as cleaner fuel, many switched to get many more miles per gallon, several pounds per tank cheaper to fill, much cheaper tax etc.

 

[Stu]

To put the record straight, I wasn't saying that I've experience of Nissan failing.
I'm saying that the What Car SURVEY put them near the bottom. That's a survey done from their readers - no politics or car companies involved.

I can't see the Which survey as I'm not subscribed to them.

 

[Nicks90]

Newer Nissan's are genuinely awful in terms of reliability and that's ever since they went in to full partnership with Renault.
Under the stewardship of Carlos Ghosn it went horribly wrong in terms of reduction in quality, build issues and penny pinching to maintain profits.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Clearly an American survey - a number of brands that we don't really get here in the UK.
I'd be interested to know the source too. It's got the "Engineering and Science" logo on it which is very untrustworthy "Facebook" brand.

It tells you exactly where it comes from, it's the annual survey from Consumer Reports, which is the US equivalent of Which? - it's kosher. The 2024 version is here :
https://www.consumerreports.org/car...who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/

They don't list some brands because they don't have enough numbers to make then statistically reliable.

I've no idea why Subarus aren't more popular here, they seem to have disappeared of the roads, for a minute I wondered if they no longer sold in the UK but there's a website saying otherwise.

They're still popular among the horsey/fishing/shooting set who need a 4-wheel drive that's not a Chelsea tractor, but they've shrunk a lot, they only sold 2,419 cars here in 2024. They were really clobbered by the EU rules on average CO2 emissions 10+ years ago as all their engines were boxers (less good for fuel efficiency, great for weight distribution - they even made a boxer diesel just for Europe) and they didn't have a Mini or Smart car in the range to offset all the turbo Imprezas (or rather they did have small city cars, but couldn't import them due to EU import regulations). So they were forced to promote non-turbo Imprezas as sensible family cars to get the CO2 average down and that didn't really work, so they withered away. They're still really popular in places like the Pacific Northwest of the US, Subaru are everywhere there - they play the same sort of role that Volvos did in the UK in the 1970s/80s before Ford ruined them.