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So I'm wanting another gadget. I'm not going to spend silly money on Antor Paar stuff (as cool as it looks), but can anyone recommend a digital refractometer? Seen a few Milwaukee ones go for decent prices second hand, but wouldn't be adverse to one of the many Chinese clones that are out there. I wish Inkbird would branch out in this direction, although it probably is a bit niche.

Any recommendations?
 
Short version - is along the lines of Mashbag ... nope. Trust me, I've looked and I like shiny things 🤩.

The Anton Paar easyDens is neither good value nor particularly accurate, it's sort of none of what anyone needs. The basic entry level density meter for accurate measurement also made by Anton Paar- which is similar to the ones used in the labs on my course, start at £17730 https://www.anton-paar.com/uk-en/products/details/portable-density-meter-dmatm-35-basic/

Now I'd love this sort of kit but I'm not even close to bonkers enough to look at it. I have one of these which is more accurate than your usual hydrometer, and you can always dilute your beer to half strength if it's above this range and double the result.
https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/large-hydrometer-1000-1060/
 
Short version - is along the lines of Mashbag ... nope. Trust me, I've looked and I like shiny things 🤩.

The Anton Paar easyDens is neither good value nor particularly accurate, it's sort of none of what anyone needs. The basic entry level density meter for accurate measurement also made by Anton Paar- which is similar to the ones used in the labs on my course, start at £17730 https://www.anton-paar.com/uk-en/products/details/portable-density-meter-dmatm-35-basic/

Now I'd love this sort of kit but I'm not even close to bonkers enough to look at it. I have one of these which is more accurate than your usual hydrometer, and you can always dilute your beer to half strength if it's above this range and double the result.
https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/large-hydrometer-1000-1060/

I've looked at that hydrometer funnily enough. I don't brew that many high gravity beers anyway, but the dilution idea is a great one.

I have a refractometer that I use on brew days, and it works very well for me. Just fancied something that gave a digital reading. I might take a pint on one the Chinese cheapies just to have a wee play. I'd not even stretch to the cheapest of Anton Paar stuff tbh. Would be too hard to justify given I already have perfectly accurate solutions.
 
Milwaukee refractometer, been using it a few years, couple of drips of wort and use the Tool in brewfather to get OG or FG.

I used to check with my hydrometer at OG and FG but don't bother now as it matches the refractometer reading every time.
 
I bought one off AE very similar to the one sold by TMM and other homebrew outlets . It’s not as accurate as my hydrometer but I use it on brewday to check the mash progress to get me in the right area.
I have just tried to find a link for the price and AE are offering 99% discount current price £1.27 !!!!! Plus £8 delivery and then tax on top

I’ve just checked the listing and it’s for WINE ONLY !!!!!!!
SORRY 😔
 
Pyknometer!

Well, it has to be said (by me!).

Far cheaper (<£10 for an adequate 25ml one) than any of them fancy Milwaukee and Anton Parr glitter balls. But you do need some decent weighing scales (about £50 will do) ... but they do come in handy for other things (like mine are weighing ingredients for "Poolish" 61% pizza dough at present).

Technology-wise these things are the "real deal". Even hydrometers have to emulate them! SG to four (not three) decimal places if you want. Little bit of maths, but I've got spreadsheets dotted about. "SG" was designed for them ... in place of temperature compensation (that'll confuse the hydrometer-philes).
 
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That's an expensive 100ml bottle, and the weighing scales are "fiddled" so it's showing the liquid's SG to be 1.3929.

But this "trick" with them is not an economical recommendation. But it shows what can be done!
 
What about the WiFi/Bluetooth enabled hydrometer/thermometers you just bung in your FV?
I use my Rapt pills all the time, they are fantastic for monitoring the progress of fermentation and temperature, I wouldn't be without them now.
But not good for final gravity readings.
I use a similar hydrometer to the one recommended by doc Anna for final gravity. Mine reads 1000 1070 (Stephenson 20°C precision brewing), and an optical refractometer on brewday.
 
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Short version - is along the lines of Mashbag ... nope. Trust me, I've looked and I like shiny things 🤩.

The Anton Paar easyDens is neither good value nor particularly accurate, it's sort of none of what anyone needs. The basic entry level density meter for accurate measurement also made by Anton Paar- which is similar to the ones used in the labs on my course, start at £17730 https://www.anton-paar.com/uk-en/products/details/portable-density-meter-dmatm-35-basic/

Now I'd love this sort of kit but I'm not even close to bonkers enough to look at it. I have one of these which is more accurate than your usual hydrometer, and you can always dilute your beer to half strength if it's above this range and double the result.
https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/large-hydrometer-1000-1060/
Au contraire mon ami, mine was short 🤣🤣
 
Short version - is along the lines of Mashbag ... nope. Trust me, I've looked and I like shiny things 🤩.

The Anton Paar easyDens is neither good value nor particularly accurate, it's sort of none of what anyone needs. The basic entry level density meter for accurate measurement also made by Anton Paar- which is similar to the ones used in the labs on my course, start at £17730 https://www.anton-paar.com/uk-en/products/details/portable-density-meter-dmatm-35-basic/

Now I'd love this sort of kit but I'm not even close to bonkers enough to look at it. I have one of these which is more accurate than your usual hydrometer, and you can always dilute your beer to half strength if it's above this range and double the result.
https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/large-hydrometer-1000-1060/
I think you need to check the cost you have quoted.....its out by a factor of 10. wink...

In what way, in your experience, wasn't the EasyDens accurate? In what aspect of measurement was it fallible?
 
As MashMonster said, a digital refractometer is great for monitoring mash progress. It doesn't have to be accurate, to show when sugar level has stopped going up.

My cheapo one, usually gives a brix reading, that converts to an OG that matches my hydrometer to within a couple of points.

I've noticed that, for a consistant reading, the lid needs to be closed. You have to leave the sample to reach device/room temperature before taking a measurement. Any evaporation from the tiny sample while cooling (it's very thin with a large surface area), will increase the density.
If the the lid is left open, particularly with high gravity solutions, consecutive readings can keep going up (even after plenty of time for the temperature to stabilise).

I don't much trust it to determine FG. As the SG conversion, which requires both initial and final Brix readings, doesn't match hydrometer well. But still, it's handy for seeing when ferment gravity has stopped falling.
The difference might be because the Brix to SG conversion factor, depends on what type of sugar you're measuring. And the mix, towards end of ferment, will contain few simple sugars.

Other factor could be any effect, from the presence of dissolved CO2. But that also affects hydrometers, unless you degass before taking readings (dissolved CO2 increases the density of water or beer).

Interesting article https://wiki.anton-paar.com/en/carbon-dioxide-in-beverages/ but it doesnt cover effect of CO2 on density.

Don't get a refractometer that directly displays 'SG' readings, unless only interested in pre ferment readings.

Even with a super accurate/expensive refractometer, an accurate Brix reading will only convert to an accurate SG, for a single (known) type of sugar.
 

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