Priming a Corny?

[Will12283]

I have a coopers lager that will be going in the corny but I don't have my reg or gas yet.

Is it a good idea to batch prime my brew and put it in the corny and condition as I would with bottles?

This will be going in a kegerator when I have my sort my gas and reg.

Rhys

 

[Rwilts]

Will,

the problem you will have is not being able to purge the keg prior to putting the beer in..

Normaly you purge with co2 either by laying odwn a layer before filling and / or putting co2 in at low pressure and purging after fill.

 

[Bernie]

I've just tried priming my old Boots keg with sugar. I didn't purge with CO2 as 5 gals of Coopers Draught just about filled the keg. I think the beer:headspace volume is higher than for bottles. Used about 5 oz of sugar. Worked alright for a while but the overpressure ran out and I ended up bottling about 3 gallons.

 

[Will12283]

Will,

the problem you will have is not being able to purge the keg prior to putting the beer in..

Normaly you purge with co2 either by laying odwn a layer before filling and / or putting co2 in at low pressure and purging after fill.

Would the secondary fermentation not lay a blanket of co2?
I was thinking that I would need to have the co2 connected to purge the keg. Just wanted to get this brew in out of the way ready for the next one to go on. I will just have to wait :)
I'm still learning about what to do with the kegs so any advice is welcome

 

[alanywiseman.]

You could purge after a week. You would only need to bleed a little bit of gas out.

 

[carl_saint]

Nothing wrong with priming a corny if you don't have gas. Leave it at room temp for a week though and purge it quickly after a few days to get rid of the O2 then put in the kegerator.

 

[Rwilts]

How are you going to serve the beer tho?

Re Read OP - Going in kegorator ..when gas available..

 

[Will12283]

How are you going to serve the beer tho?

Re Read OP - Going in kegorator ..when gas available..

Will be serving as normal by co2
Hopefully will have regulator this weekend and I'm just trying to sort out someone to supply me with gas.

 

[kev]

I'd wait till you have the right gear. Your beer will be ok for a week.

K

 

[Rwilts]

I know its not everyones cup of tea (Pint of IPA?) but BOC do home accounts - They have a depo off Ocean way.


:thumb:

 

[kev]

I've got a BOC account. No problems at all.

K

 

[Rwilts]

And me! :thumb:

 

[Will12283]

I have read that people have had trouble getting an account with them.

What is the cost with BOC?

 

[Rwilts]

I think (only because i have not currently got a bottle from them at the moment) it was £2:50 per month rental on a pub size bottle (lasted me 12 months) and about £25 a fill.

 

[kev]

Aye. It's slightly more now. £3 a month from memory and the fills about £25 as you say.

K

 

[Gassman]

I've just called a place in Liverpool for a co2 bottle

They want £20 for the first one then £10 for each one after that

 

[kev]

What size of bottle?

What's the benzene content? They should be able to tell you.

K

 

[Gassman]

I think they mentioned 10kg

Benzene you lost me there

 

[kev]

Cut a long story short.......there's aslight difference between industrial-grade CO2 and food-grade CO2 and thats the type of tests that are done to qualify CO2 as beverage or beer gas-grade compared to industrial-grade. Currently, the US FDA's requirement for food-grade CO2 is a 99.90% purity rating. The other .09% is made up of impurities such as hydrocarbons or nitrogen. Industrial grade CO2 (fire extinguishers, etc) is 99% pure CO2, also containing impurities such as hydrocarbons or nitrogen.

When talking impurities, we generally don't talk in percentages, so don't be mislead from the above paragraph. When you look at impurities, they are referred to as PPM (parts per million) or PPB (parts per billion), so if you just look at hydrocarbons. Hydrocarbons might have 20 ppm in the CO2 that you are buying, which means that out of one cylinder, if you have industrial-grade CO2, it is 99% CO2. The remaining 1% has 20 ppm hydrocarbon. If you add up the remaining impurities it would equal 1%.

One impurity that all homebrewers should be aware of is benzene. Benzene is a no-no for homebrewers. If the CO2 that you are purchasing has high benzene levels, it will leave you and fellow drinkers with terrible headaches. When I say high levels, we are not talking about much. Benzene is usually an impurity that is referred to in PPB. The benzene level should be around 20 PPB.

K

 

[Gassman]

Hmm lots to think about eh

All I know is that this firm supplies pubs with their gas and the bottle I am getting is one of them

I will check what you said though Kev so thank you