Free gas. 18 litre corny fill instead of 19?

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I like people that are willing to try ideas out to see if they work and admire your willingness to give it a go @MashBag but ...

but do think no cylinder/faff/rental/refill has its merits.
... I can't help feeling that it sounds more of a faff than just using a cylinder 🤣 that being said make sure you keep us updated if you do decide to go for it 👍

Is there nowhere local that you can get a cylinder without an ongoing rental? I paid a deposit and the about £20 for a refill which lasts me over a year
 
I've found that if I completely fill a Corny with 19L of beer, it's as flat as a fart, because as hard as I try, I can't get it to hold gas. I've shaken it, rolled it about, even played catch.

If you like that thing, great.
I naturally carbonate my beer during fermentation and do a closed transfer. I have a full keg of carbonated beer plus a couple of bottles.
 
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