Paying for French / German Ebay Pots Paranoia

[AndyBWood]

Hi JD,

If it helps my transactions via ebay worked out as follows :

1 x 32.5 litre Thermos EUR 62.95

2 x 50 litre Stock Pot EUR 83.90

Total Goods EUR 146.85

Total Postage (3 items) EUR 29.90

Andy

ps - this was a completely smooth transaction, great communication (in three languages), fantastic fast delivery. Hope you sort out your issues.

 

[johnny_dove]

Thanks guys, it worked out! Big shiny pot on the way! They said I would get the price they already invoiced me but that I will have to pay more next time I order from them... If scoring 4 goals on Germany, in one half of a competion match, increases postage fees from Germany to Sweden, it was worth it:-P

Jokes aside, great service so far.

 

[Vossy1]

Nice one j_d :party:

 

[johnny_dove]

Arrived!
Fits perfectly on my stove!
It came in the post in a cardboard box no protective wrap what so ever.

Rather a lot of dents in the bottom...what conditions where your pots in on arrival? Not sure what one can demand considering the low price.

There is a also a cavity by the welding. The last inch on the sides near the bottom looks like it has been polished a bit rough and the surface is not smooth and looks slightly blackened. There are some small black sand sized cuts and cavities here and there on the sides near the bottom.

Did I get what is expected for a budget pot or did they give me a defective unit for not immediately agreeing to pay extra for their "mistake"?

I would say it works for boiling but all of these scratches would not make it suitable to be converted into a fermentation bin.

 

[calumscott]

Part of what you describe is just the construction of the pots. I think they are made with a tube of steel for the sides and the bases are cold forged into a dish about 1.5" high which is then welded in - hence the different textures.

I had a few little dents in the bottom too but as I was always going to do *much* worse to it so I didn't care.

So long as the weld around the base is sound (no bad pitting, rust, etc) and the handles are secure and there are no major dents I say "just get brewing!!!"

:thumb:

 

[graysalchemy]

I watched a program on quest which showed how pots are made. the are made from a solid disk which a pressed into shape on a lathe.

 

[TRXnMe]

This is the inside of mine, with two elements fitted and 20+ litres of water testing the element seal.

No manky bits, no dents, I think (hope) you have been unlucky, the hope is there because I'm plannig to do business with them again later this year, a thermopot is desired to replce my coolbox mash tun :)

 

[Vossy1]

I watched a program on quest which showed how pots are made. the are made from a solid disk which a pressed into shape on a lathe.

That's good quality pots not the cheapy Nordic/catering pots...you gets what you pay for :lol:

I think they are made with a tube of steel for the sides and the bases are cold forged into a dish about 1.5" high which is then welded in - hence the different textures.

That's the one...try not to drill in the welded area, it's heat tempered, and watch out for rust in this area, the weld's and the steel can be 'flawed' leading to rust The stainless can also be dodgy and have flaws, for that reason store pots upside down when not in use, this prevents condensation rusting on the base when not in use/stored where temp differences are prevalent, ie, in a unheated garage

 

[johnny_dove]

Sent them a picture and they offered to come collect it and send me a new pot. Did not want to wait for a new one but great service!

 

[Loetz]

Sent them a picture and they offered to come collect it and send me a new pot. Did not want to wait for a new one but great service!

wow :shock: :thumb:

 

[Vossy1]

Sent them a picture and they offered to come collect it and send me a new pot. Did not want to wait for a new one but great service!

In the old days they used to ask you to send it back, looks like they've mellowed. They often come with 'dinks' on the bottom, but they can easily be pushed out with the round handle end of a screw driver, or you can use the same method but use a hammer to apply a bit more force to the screw driver :thumb:

 

[Loetz]

Has anyone ever bought a 100l pot off of them, and do you remember what it cost you?

 

[PD]

100 litre pot from The Malt Miller costs £81.60 and it is at your door within 2 days....

and Rob speaks a good style of English too.....tells jokes....chats away...and is a thoroughly nice guy....

 

[Sean_Mc]

THIS GUY has them for £78 + P&P and with a tap fitted

 

[Belter]

I paid less than £50 plus delivery but as I bought three pots at the same time it was minimal split between the three. 100l stock x 2 80l thermo. 180£ I think

 

[Belter]

This is the inside of mine, with two elements fitted and 20+ litres of water testing the element seal.

No manky bits, no dents, I think (hope) you have been unlucky, the hope is there because I'm plannig to do business with them again later this year, a thermopot is desired to replce my coolbox mash tun :)

Where did you pick up your helical elements?

 

[TRXnMe]

This is the inside of mine, with two elements fitted and 20+ litres of water testing the element seal.

No manky bits, no dents, I think (hope) you have been unlucky, the hope is there because I'm plannig to do business with them again later this year, a thermopot is desired to replce my coolbox mash tun :)

Where did you pick up your helical elements?

ASDA

They are kettle elements, take a look at BigYin's how to for the details on how to use them :)

You need a 38mm hole cutter for the pot, and a silicone baking sheet from ALDI / LIDL / Poundland to pack out the seal :)

 

[Belter]

This is the inside of mine, with two elements fitted and 20+ litres of water testing the element seal.

No manky bits, no dents, I think (hope) you have been unlucky, the hope is there because I'm plannig to do business with them again later this year, a thermopot is desired to replce my coolbox mash tun :)

Where did you pick up your helical elements?

ASDA

They are kettle elements, take a look at BigYin's how to for the details on how to use them :)

You need a 38mm hole cutter for the pot, and a silicone baking sheet from ALDI / LIDL / Poundland to pack out the seal :)

how many. brews in are you with them?

 

[johnny_dove]

Trying to guesstimate boil off / hour rate for my 50 l schenkler. Ideas? Thought I would boil my pilsner and wheat malt wort for 90 minutes.

 

[TRXnMe]

The latest brew was my fourth, I took the elements out and gave them a damn good clean as there were a couple of hard to reach spots building up crud. I know from past experience that it's the crud that will cause them to blow if left alone :)

I think we've got folk on here who have had a good many brews from the value kettle elements, ask someone like BigYin, he's been using them for a fair while looking at his how to date :)

@Johnny_dove, I lose around 4 litres over a 90 minute brew, maybe a little less.