Oxyclean Residue

[Saisonator]

I normally clean my bottles by soaking them in VWP for a few days, but last time I used Oxyclean Bleach powder from the £1 shop.
The tide marks were effectively removed holding the bottles up to the light and I rinsed the grandmother out of them, as I usually do being overly fussy about cleaning and rinsing.
Although even after thorough rinsing there was some white powdery residue remaining on the outside of a few of the bottles. But looking through the bottles with strong light behind I could not see any problems inside.
So on bottling day I gave the bottles a good squirt of starsan with the vinator and filled with beer.
Now after 3 weeks conditioning I can see a thin ring of residue around the inside shoulder of the bottle, never seen it before so I am wondering if it is to do with the oxy?
Beer has carbed up fine and tastes great!
I know oxy bleach breaks down into safe organic compounds so I wonder if there are any issues with this if it is in fact oxy residue?

 

[MyQul]

If your water is hard oxy can precipitate the minerals out of the water and leave them on glass. This happened to me the first time I tried to clean glass bottles afer I switched over fromPET. Acid's like star san are supposed to get it off again but I see you've tried that. Perhaps try boiling them

 

[Clint]

I oxi (sodium percarbonate )my bottles,bottle brush,rinse then star san on bottling day. Mine seem ok....I do find though if using oxi a wipe or swill with star san solution straight away lifts any residue. You can feel the residue....a sort of soapy,slippy scum...the star san returns the surface to squeaky clean.
Give them a few weeks then try one!

 

[Fil]

perhaps due to too strong an oxy solution and left too long to soak so the solution has cooled? as its more effective warm, if you use too much when it cools the solution may drop crystals? when this happens they are a bugger to shift and if inside bottles an acid soak is probably the only option, a bottle brush will glide over em,,

oxy is effective in very small quantities 1 scoop is ample for 25l+ of effective solution.

for bottles with a hint of residue a 15 minute soak is ample and nothing should need being left longer than say 45 mins imho.
if your bottles have sun dried yeast cakes welded to their base, a presoak in just water the day before the clean up may be worth considering?

 

[Saisonator]

Do you think there are any issues with the residue when it comes to actually drinking the beer?
As in is it safe?

 

[Cwrw666]

Personally I use washing soda solution on my bottles. It gets rid of even the stubbornest, dried on yeast residues and leaves the bottles sparkly clean. It's just sodium carbonate as well so totally harmless.

 

[Saisonator]

Personally I use washing soda solution on my bottles. It gets rid of even the stubbornest, dried on yeast residues and leaves the bottles sparkly clean. It's just sodium carbonate as well so totally harmless.

That's good to hear :)
Washing soda is cheap as chips so will give it a go.

 

[Dutto]

No matter how many I drink ...:thumb:... I ALWAYS rinse out the bottles with cold water immediately after pouring and then put them on the Bottle Rack to drain and dry.

On bottling day, I make up 5 litres of Oxy-Clean (at 4g Oxy-Clean per litre of warm water) in a large pan. First use of the mixture is to scrub down the Bottle Rack and then use a funnel and a jug to pour about 2cm into the bottom of each bottle.

I give each bottle a vigorous shake, drain the Oxy-Clean back into the pan and put the bottle on the Bottle Rack to drain.

While the bottles are draining I use the Oxy-Clean to sanitise the Bottling Wand, flip-tops & seals (or crown caps) for about 20 minutes before starting bottling. (The 20 minutes gives me time to make a Hop Tea, dissolve the priming sugar into some water, pour them into the Bottling Bucket and set up the Bottling Wand.)

LUCKILY I have never had an infection using this system and my bottles stay crystal clear.:thumb:

 

[treebeard]

+1 What Dutto said. I do exactly the same process :thumb:

 

[Bigcol49]

Hi!
The only problem that I encountered with Wizz Oxy on bottles was if they were left too long in the solution.

 

[Saisonator]

Yes I soaked them for about two days to remove labels.

 

[Clint]

Al la Dutto...wash those bottles at the end of your session!
Just wondering. ...anyone was theirs I the dishwasher? Just put a skanky one in the other day and it came out sparkling and squeaky clean....it will still get the regime on bottling day though!

 

[svenito]

I just cleaned some bottles with Oxy and we have hard water. I left them soaking overnight and they all had a residue on and in them. I ended up squirting some white vinegar in, shaking it around, adding a bit of water, adding a ballchain and giving it a good shake. A final rinse with water left them sparkling clean. I reckon I also over did the oxi a bit to be fair, but the residue is just some of the calcium from the water. The vinegar practically removes it on contact.

Then the usual satarsan rinse before bottling.

 

[marshbrewer]

Al la Dutto...wash those bottles at the end of your session!
Just wondering. ...anyone was theirs I the dishwasher? Just put a skanky one in the other day and it came out sparkling and squeaky clean....it will still get the regime on bottling day though!

I had read that you could clean them in a dishwasher on a really hot setting, but without dishwasher detergent (to avoid residue). The idea being that the heat sanitizes them? Haven't tried it, though.

 

[MmmBeer]

I have used my dishwasher for my bottles on last few bottling days. As Clint said they come out sparkly clean, plus it removes some of the labels. I hadn't heard about running without detergent. I can usually get about 30 bottles in at a time and run on a 60°C wash with regular dishwasher detergent. The bottles come out hot and dry, I then Starsan them on my bottle washer and put on the drying tree for ~15 mins before bottling.

 

[BREWERS DROOP]

I clean m Erlenmeyer Flask out with oxy and found even after a good rinse it left a white sheen on the glass, i thought it might be scratching from the magnet,on the stir plate, but it wasn't. I found after using oxy pour boiling water into the flask and leave for 10 minutes then rinse with cold water and it disappeared. I use pub pipeline cleaner on my bottles soaked in a big black dustbin, then rinse with cold water, then dump into another dustbin full of starsan, works well for me.

 

[Sheepish]

I've had the same white residue, quick wizz with my drill powered home made bottle scrubby thing with hot water and a hint of washing up liquid soon had it shifted.

 

[MrRook]

I had that problem with a knockoff brand from the supermarket a few years ago and stopped using it. I then tried some from a $1 store that worked fine.

 

[Dutto]

Yes I soaked them for about two days to remove labels.

Ouch! A soak similar soak in cold water will do the trick when it comes to removing labels; and the "green" side of a domestic sponge will remove any residual glue.

If the inside is dirty and the bottle brush doesn't seem to touch it, I use a tablespoon of basmati rice and a bit of cold water. Shaken violently, the rice makes a nice gentle scouring agent that won't scratch or otherwise damage the glass.

I also use the same method on wine stains in Claret Jugs and Carafes.:thumb:

 

[Clint]

Thought you said cravats there...Myqul would have played hell!
As for removing labels....any metallic or plastic type get left on...