NEIPA Yeast Recommendations

[Tess Tickle's Brewery]

Thank you, will take a look.

I bet the home brew club you go to is pretty useful too. I wish I lived down there - would love to go along to something like that.

 

[Hazelwood Brewery]

Thank you, will take a look.

I bet the home brew club you go to is pretty useful too. I wish I lived down there - would love to go along to something like that.

Maybe put this book on your Christmas wish list. Enjoy the read and have a look at some of the (many) references where they take your interest.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-IPA-Sc...janish&qid=1636309626&sprefix=scott+ja&sr=8-1

 

[MickDundee]

When I make beer, I like to use the same brand of malt where possible, but CML make it impossible to know what brand you're getting. I'm pretty sure they don't have their own malt house, and again (I think) it's re-packaged stuff. If anyone knows better then please let me know.

They state on their website the source of each malt on their dropdown Online Store | brewstore

It’s nearly all crisp, but the MO and Melandoiden are Paul’s, the brown and extra dark Crystal are both Muntons, the biscuit is Chateau, and they also stock both types of Crafty Maltsters malts.

My issue with their malts is the price. I was looking at 4kg of Torrified wheat earlier and it was going to be £12. I know they include the postage in that price but I’d be as well getting a bigger order from GEB or MM where I can get the same stuff for less than a fiver. It’s probably ok in a “oh **** I forgot to get 500g of Crystal with the rest of my malt order” situation but not for decent quantities.

 

[The-Engineer-That-Brews]

I know a lot of people knock S-04, but the only fault I personally find with it is that it seems to be a bit bland. Other than that it seems quick and reliable so I usually keep a packet in the fridge in case I need a Plan B.

 

[Tess Tickle's Brewery]

I know a lot of people knock S-04, but the only fault I personally find with it is that it seems to be a bit bland. Other than that it seems quick and reliable so I usually keep a packet in the fridge in case I need a Plan B.

What about S-05 TETB? I realise this one is higher attenuating and American. The husband says White labs 001 and WYeast 1056 (Brewdog house strain) is the same yeast as the US-05.

 

[The-Engineer-That-Brews]

What about S-05 TETB? I realise this one is higher attenuating and American. The husband says White labs 001 and WYeast 1056 (Brewdog house strain) is the same yeast as the US-05.

Never tried it I’m afraid Lisa; it’s very rare that I use dried yeast of any type - not out of prejudice, just that liquid seems more ‘alive’ (a bit nonsensical but there you go)

 

[Alastair70]

What about S-05 TETB? I realise this one is higher attenuating and American. The husband says White labs 001 and WYeast 1056 (Brewdog house strain) is the same yeast as the US-05.

Your husband is correct. US-05, WLP 001 Wy1056 and host of other West Coast ale yeasts are all descended from the ‘Chico’ strain from Sierra Nevada.

 

[dwhite60]

If you want something truly different and tasty you might try Belle Saison. The extra fruitiness would be fitting. It will go pretty dry though.

Through poor planning I made a stout a couple years ago and used WB-06 wheat beer yeast. Different but got some good feedback on it.

 

[Clint]

FWIW..I'm liking MJ West Coast for my ipa at the moment.

 

[fgoulding]

I don’t think that you can go wrong with any of the English ale yeasts but the best results I’ve had so far was with the Verdant IPA dried yeast.

However, I would like to try Imperial A38 Juice:

https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/imperial-yeast-a38-juice/
I’m also keen to try the new super clean omega lutra dried kveik yeast:

https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/omega-yeast-oyl-071dry-lutra-dried-kveik-11g/
Unfortunately both of these become “no expense spared” when you add in the shipping costs to Ireland

 

[Tess Tickle's Brewery]

Brew Dudes also suggest London Ale III
RECIPE

No offence to you, but I can't stand those 2 dozy pill0cks, especially him on the right!

 

[Galena]

No offence to you, but I can't stand those 2 dozy pill0cks, especially him on the right!

 

[Dorst]

The obvious dry yeast strain would be Lallemand's New England (East coast ale yeast). It's the conan strain that started the whole NEIPA craze.

A good liquid yeast candidate is Imperial yeast A38 Juice (Malt Miller).

If you want something special I really recommend Imperial yeast A20 Citrus (Malt Miller). It's the Sacch Bruxellensis Trois strain that really throws a lot of tropical flavours (it was initially thought to be a brettanomyces strain). The attenuation of this strain is higher than you would want for a NEIPA but the flavours more than make up for it.

 

[Tess Tickle's Brewery]

The obvious dry yeast strain would be Lallemand's New England (East coast ale yeast). It's the conan strain that started the whole NEIPA craze.

A good liquid yeast candidate is Imperial yeast A38 Juice (Malt Miller).

If you want something special I really recommend Imperial yeast A20 Citrus (Malt Miller). It's the Sacch Bruxellensis Trois strain that really throws a lot of tropical flavours (it was initially thought to be a brettanomyces strain). The attenuation of this strain is higher than you would want for a NEIPA but the flavours more than make up for it.

Your first two options would be my first choices as mentioned above.

Will research the citrus one as I haven't seen that. Thank you.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

So in a couple of weeks I'll be starting my no-expense spared, Christmas NEIPA.

I was going to use Verdant IPA but we have used it a couple of times now and I'm a little bored of it. Does anyone have any recommendations of yeasts that I can substitute with please?

Well 1318 and derivatives like Verdant are pretty much the go-to for NEIPAs these days. And to be honest, a "no-expense spared" beer is not the one to be going too weird with your yeast choices.

Imperial Juice is also a 1318 derivative allegedly, so that's not going to help much.

WLP066 London Fog is meant to work well, but I've not tried it, and I'm not sure whether it's just another 1318 equivalent.

One of the Conans is an obvious shout - the Yeast Bay Vermont is meant to one of the better ones, WLP095 Burlington less good. But...it's all been done before - and also note that it really doesn't like being dried so the Lallemand New England has a much lower viable count than other dry yeasts. See Scott Janish for his comparison of a Conan versus 1318 :
https://scottjanish.com/gy054-vermont-ipa-vs-london-ale-iii-1318/And White Pointer :
https://whitepointerbrewery.wordpre...-part-2-conan-vs-london-ale-iii-side-by-side/
But I'd +1 to one of the Sacch Trois variants like WLP644 or Citrus, they work well and are a bit different to some of the usual suspects. Although it is diastatic if that's a concern for you.

I know some people like kveiks for NEIPAs but they always seem a bit ... clumsy to me.

Most English yeasts will work fairly well, although the forums have more experience with some than others. But some like Nottingham can mute hop flavour somewhat, which is not ideal.

Alternatively there's various pre-made blends out there typically with a Conan, a Sacc Trois and a 1318 or similar - I assume that's what WLP067 Coastal Haze is (but presumably with Fog rather than 1318, and there's a new WLP091 Best Coast which is non-diastatic and so presumably replaces the Trois with something else). Yeast Bay WLP4042 Hazy Daze is another along the same lines. Imperial A24 Dry Hop is just their Conan and Trois, so would cover those bases in one hit if that's where you wanted to go.

But all those options are a bit mundane. If are OK experimenting with your flagship beer, then I would go local - 1469 West Yorkshire or just get some dregs of eg Tim Taylor from a local pub. But the results are not guaranteed. Otherwise, the money-no-object would point towards something rare like the Bootleg NEEPAH blend (currently available from Malt Miller although the date's a bit short).

 

[Michael Burnley]

I can recommend Mangrove Jack,s Hophead, used it a couple of times and the hop flavour does shine through

https://mangrovejacks.com/collections/craft-series-yeasts/products/m66-hophead-ale-yeast-10g

 

[Tess Tickle's Brewery]

Well 1318 and derivatives like Verdant are pretty much the go-to for NEIPAs these days. And to be honest, a "no-expense spared" beer is not the one to be going too weird with your yeast choices.

Imperial Juice is also a 1318 derivative allegedly, so that's not going to help much.

WLP066 London Fog is meant to work well, but I've not tried it, and I'm not sure whether it's just another 1318 equivalent.

One of the Conans is an obvious shout - the Yeast Bay Vermont is meant to one of the better ones, WLP095 Burlington less good. But...it's all been done before - and also note that it really doesn't like being dried so the Lallemand New England has a much lower viable count than other dry yeasts. See Scott Janish for his comparison of a Conan versus 1318 :
https://scottjanish.com/gy054-vermont-ipa-vs-london-ale-iii-1318/And White Pointer :
https://whitepointerbrewery.wordpre...-part-2-conan-vs-london-ale-iii-side-by-side/
But I'd +1 to one of the Sacch Trois variants like WLP644 or Citrus, they work well and are a bit different to some of the usual suspects. Although it is diastatic if that's a concern for you.

I know some people like kveiks for NEIPAs but they always seem a bit ... clumsy to me.

Most English yeasts will work fairly well, although the forums have more experience with some than others. But some like Nottingham can mute hop flavour somewhat, which is not ideal.

Alternatively there's various pre-made blends out there typically with a Conan, a Sacc Trois and a 1318 or similar - I assume that's what WLP067 Coastal Haze is (but presumably with Fog rather than 1318, and there's a new WLP091 Best Coast which is non-diastatic and so presumably replaces the Trois with something else). Yeast Bay WLP4042 Hazy Daze is another along the same lines. Imperial A24 Dry Hop is just their Conan and Trois, so would cover those bases in one hit if that's where you wanted to go.

But all those options are a bit mundane. If are OK experimenting with your flagship beer, then I would go local - 1469 West Yorkshire or just get some dregs of eg Tim Taylor from a local pub. But the results are not guaranteed. Otherwise, the money-no-object would point towards something rare like the Bootleg NEEPAH blend (currently available from Malt Miller although the date's a bit short).

Thank you for your detailed reply. Will look into some of these things. Should keep me busy for a while!

 

[RockTKaz]

have you thought about pairing the yeast? I used verdant & MJ M66 hopyead
Pitched at the same time, I was very pleased with the result, I’ve heard bry-97 works quite well with it too

 

[samale]

Without going of topic, can anyone recommend a good recipe. I plan to have another attempt some time next week. Hops will citra Simcoe and talus, I have ordered verdant and bry-97 yeast. So basically looking to see what grain bill people are using.

 

[Tess Tickle's Brewery]

Not sure if this will help, but I've started basing my stuff around this recipe.

He explains what they put in and why. About 1 min 20 onwards is useful.