milton sanitiser

[happy jack]

Hello all
Have been getting everthing together before buying a Couple of cornie kegs but would like advice with sanitising.
I have used bleach and also milton tablets when cleaning and sterilising my bottles and plastic kegs, But have been assured that bleach is not good for stainless steel. Star san, Vadine and alike seem the best option but would milton tablets do the trick?
Thanks in advance,
Jack.

 

[pittsy]

not sure , i would say yes but first get something copper with a solder fitting like a hop strainer that is nice and shiney and use milton if no colouring then should be fine , if you try copper with bleach you see a darkening where there is solder so i'd bet its ok for copper then ok for s/s .

 

[Frogfurlong]

Bleach and Milton have sodium hypochlorite in common.
Although according to the Milton website their process makes Milton stable.

A mooch around the t'interweb has pointed out on the list of galvanic metals copper is cathodal and SS is anodal.
Milton would be an almost perfect electrolyte (high salt content).

So a mixed metal installation would create electrolysis, corrosion and discolouration.

Probably best to go with a different method :)

 

[wilsoa1111]

in our course at uni they talked about various sanitisers etc and miltons is definately one of the best options- however yes it doesnt react well with ss etc but provided the contact time is not more than 5-10 minutes i doubt it would be a huge problem once or twice but long term it causes pitting in the metal leading to a rougher surface which becomes impossible to clean effectively... as to wether starsan is less damaging i dunno seems like it would do a bit of damge aswell. tbh i reckon u could get away with it just makesure to rinse after a maximum of 2 mins (everything will be long dead)

 

[mashman]

Commercial Micro's. . . . .

Predominently Stainless. . . . .

Causdeta: (Caustic Detergent) For deep cleaning and stubborn gunk.
Chlordet: (Chlorine Based Detegent) For everyday "normal" cleaning.
Perbac: (Peracetic Acid) For routine steralisation of everything that beer touches.

 

[periolus]

I use percarbonate for cleaning everything. This is the active ingredient in oxy cleaners that you can get in poundland etc for, surprise - £1. That contains about 30% percarbonate. I went on ebay and spent £6 on 1kg of 100% percarbonate, and it is awesome - shifts everything.

I use Sorgene 5, which is peracetic acid, to sanitise. I use this at 1:100 for everything in the brewery. Nothing survives. Be careful handling it neat, as it causes contact burns, but once diluted it is perfectly safe and is NON-RINSE, which is great. It smells awful, but once absorbed into beer it disappears without a trace.

I chose both of these chemicals because I wanted to remove chlorine from the equation altogether; it can damage SS and cause problems in fermentation if not rinsed properly out of equipment. PLUS, it involves rinsing with water again, which can introduce bacteria. Peracetic acid clings to the surface of things and so you guarantee EVERYTHING is dead.

I hope this helps!

 

[happy jack]

Thankyou all for your comprehensive replies.
I shall soak the bottles and plastic tubing etc in a bleach solution and
try a milton solution for short contact time using a spray bottle for sanitising the inside of the cornie kegs. Although milton advises no rinse on the instructions l have always used a quick rinse so maybe it will be ok on stainless steel.
Many thanks again
jack.

 

[periolus]

The rule seems to be that 20 mins contact time between SS and bleach is the danger point. Keep it less than that.

 

[happy jack]

Thanks Periolus. Will do!