Man walks into a pub

[graysalchemy]

Just Got this

and this

for Christmas, only just started to read Man walks into a pub but they seem really good.

Anyone read them?

 

[Aleman]

Hops and Glory is pretty poor, It's contains a lot of inaccuracies, and while an interesting read about his journey, it bears no relation to "The Beer that built the British Empire"

"Man walks into a pup" . . . . You'd have thought he would have seen it wouldn't you?

 

[Vossy1]

"Man walks into a pup" . . . . You'd have thought he would have seen it wouldn't you?

:lol:
I've not read either, let us know what you think of them once read :thumb:

 

[jamesb]

I've got all three of them.

They're a good read.

Just remember they're not about beer as such, but rather about the culture surrounding it.

Pete Brown's a nice bloke too. Met him a couple of times.

 

[graysalchemy]

Hops and Glory is pretty poor, It's contains a lot of inaccuracies, and while an interesting read about his journey, it bears no relation to "The Beer that built the British Empire"

"Man walks into a pup" . . . . You'd have thought he would have seen it wouldn't you?

Depends on how small the pup was it may have been a Chihuahua

Mind you if it was a Chihuahua it would have most likely been carried by one of these two

Mind you I think he probably still would have bumped into it. :rofl: :rofl:

 

[markp]

I've read 'Man Walks Into A Pub'.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.....as james said, it is about the culture and changes that our pubs have gone through over the years. Very interesting.

 

[micmacmoc]

Just finishuing hops and glory, read the pub one, great stuff. What innacuracies Aleman?
They're good entertainment, actually read the pub one out loud to my wife and daughter on a long car journey, they loved it too. The Hops and Glory one interests me more from the point of view of a traveller, particularly the sailing.
Put youyr feet up, pour yourself a pint and enjoy them!

 

[Aleman]

What innacuracies Aleman?

Firstly the beer - It wasn't an IPA, even though it was brewed to a 1920's recipe it still was nothing like the beers of the 1800's or even later genuine IPA's. The Durden park beer circle have been unable to find any brewing records of 'Bass' IPA'.

Secondly the exploding 'cask' - Or more accurately a metal pin. Exporters of 'Origianl IPA' understood the reasons for exploding casks and bottles, and those destined for export were aged in wooden casks for 12 moths before export. Result flat beer. the ships movement during the voyage encouraged a cask fermentation resulting in beer with sparkle upon arrival in India.

Thirdly The Voyage. The beer taken to India was in a metal Pin (not the original aluminium cask) from teh UK to Brazil by air. It then had a 5 week voyage on a modern container ship from Rio to Mumbai in an Air conditioned cabin. It then travelled by train to Kolkata . . . not exactly a traditional East India Voyage.

Forthly the Madeira Theory. Total tosh! IPA Caramelised and Oxidised . . . I don't think so!

They're good entertainment, actually read the pub one out loud to my wife and daughter on a long car journey, they loved it too. The Hops and Glory one interests me more from the point of view of a traveller, particularly the sailing.
Put youyr feet up, pour yourself a pint and enjoy them!

Without a doubt an interesting read, but as a travel book, in which the original intention plays a very minor role . . . For me I would have liked to see better research and accuracy, the danger is that subsequent researchers and writers may use the volume as an accurate source of IPA knowledge.

And since when do you quote speed on the water in knots per hour :wha: Its either knots or Nautical Miles Per hour . . . so even the sailing bit is perhaps questionable.

 

[graysalchemy]

Perhaps I should have only said I got Man walks into a pub :rofl: :rofl:.

Obviously true IPA is a very complex subject and obviously an ingenious business proposal and brewing process which could only have been thought of by clever people back in the day of the British Empire. I can't wait to read it now but perhaps I should also read something with a bit more authority on IPA and the history of British beers.

 

[unclepumble]

IO have read the second one,might have to get man walks into a pub. I thought it was a good read not wholey acurate but there are plenty of interesting things to read about.
I would recommend Amber gold and black
As that is also a good read.
Up

 

[evanvine]

Are you becoming a Tommy Cooper clone Tony? :lol:

 

[gsidford]

And since when do you quote speed on the water in knots per hour :wha:

1 knot per hour = 1 nautical mile per hour per hour = acceleration !

acceleration = (final velocity-initial velocity) / time elapsed

assuming initial velocity = 0 knots, then final velocity = acceleration * time elapsed

fv = 1 knot / hour * (24*7*5 hours)

fv = 840 knots

Now that assumes a straight line from Rio to Mumbai but that is an impressive arrival speed at the quayside. Bet the beer would have been shaken up a bit.

 

[Wez]

And since when do you quote speed on the water in knots per hour :wha:

1 knot per hour = 1 nautical mile per hour per hour = acceleration !

acceleration = (final velocity-initial velocity) / time elapsed

assuming initial velocity = 0 knots, then final velocity = acceleration * time elapsed

fv = 1 knot / hour * (24*7*5 hours)

fv = 840 knots

Now that assumes a straight line from Rio to Mumbai but that is an impressive arrival speed at the quayside. Bet the beer would have been shaken up a bit.

I love how we go from "Anyone read these" to this

 

[Moley]

1 knot per hour = 1 nautical mile per hour per hour = acceleration !

acceleration = (final velocity-initial velocity) / time elapsed

assuming initial velocity = 0 knots, then final velocity = acceleration * time elapsed

fv = 1 knot / hour * (24*7*5 hours)

fv = 840 knots

I dropped out of Pure Maths and would have to get my son to run the numbers on that, but is that Rio to Mumbai via Auckland? With that sort of acceleration it certainly wouldn't have taken 5 weeks.

Mind you if it was a Chihuahua it would have most likely been carried by one of these two

No reason whatsoever for quoting this post, but I must have studied that photo for a good few minutes before I even noticed the dog.

 

[gsidford]

but is that Rio to Mumbai via Auckland? With that sort of acceleration it certainly wouldn't have taken 5 weeks..

You are right, quite flawed to make the assumption that the acceleration would continue for the original duration of the voyage despite having reached the destination quite a bit earlier then planned and then continued to plough through the sub-continent regardless.

The correct calculation based upon the distance and acceleration and the true journey time is quite past me at this moment, something to do with the two bottles of Punk IPA I have just consumed (to get this back to the IPA subject).

 

[evanvine]

I must have studied that photo for a good few minutes before I even noticed the dog.

What dog?

 

[jonewer]

Forthly the Madeira Theory. Total tosh! IPA Caramelised and Oxidised . . . I don't think so!

Zythophile did an interesting number on hot matured IPA

http://zythophile.wordpress.com/2010/06 ... xperiment/

It makes sense. Most chemical reactions go faster when its hotter so theres every reason to believe higher temperatures will accelerate maturation.

To this end I have stuck some bottle conditioned beers in the airing cupboard, ready to sup in May 2011 - if they last that long! there were a few casualties a month ago :lol: