London Lager/Wheat Beer help please!?

[seamus]

I've just started brewing again after a 20 year hiatus and i'm on a mission now!!

Hopefully, you experienced guys can help me achieve my goal - I want to be able to brew something very similar to a drink called London Lager - if you've never tried it then i'll try and describe it - basically, it's a very light orange coloured lager with a hint of wheat beer to it - when it's poured the liquid is slightly cloudy but this actually clears in the glass - it's not a strong lager and no way near as strong or wheaty as, say, erdinger.

There is a similar beer called Youngs London Gold which me and the mrs love as well - again this is a light ale with a wheaty flavour to it - on the instructions they say to leave the last few drops in the bottle to keep the yeast/sediment out of the glass - but in my opinion that's the best bit!!!

So, does anyone have a recommendation for a kit that is going to it my criteria - if not that's cool - we'll just have to experiment, brew everything and take it from there lol

So, the criteria are ...

light ale or lager
not too strong (3.5 - 4.5 abv)
light golden lager colour
wheaty but not tooooo wheaty
brewable in a bucket by amateurs

Thanks for any help!

J...

 

[lovelldr]

How about using something like the Coopers Australian lager, and instead of sugar, use what dme instead? That should hopefully give a what taste beer to a lager kit?

Maybe others have better ideas. Never tried either of the two you mention, so have no ideas of their taste, but hopefully my suggestion should be easiest to get what you want...

 

[seamus]

I did see the aussie lager advertised on eBay and it looks tempting ...

however, I found this ...

"Meantime Brew Master, Alastair Hook, has spent 20 years planning the
quintessential English lager. His reasoning is simple, the great European lager
brewers use very soft water and neutral yeasts to ensure that only the flavours
of their locally grown malt and hops come to the fore. East Anglia is home to
the world’s finest malting barley and Kent is home to some of the world’s best
hops. Midway between the two, London is ideally placed to bring them together
in a straightforward, clean, long-matured, unpasteurised lager, where all you
can taste is malt and hop.
The hops in Meantime London Lager enable it to stand up much better than
most lagers to stronger flavours such as mature cheeses, hams, smoked meats
or oily fish."

Available in: 330ml long neck bottle / 24 bottles per case
Best Before: 12 months Serve: Chilled
London Lager
4.5% ABV

THIS IS THE BIT THAT INTERESTS ME >>>

Grains
English Pilsner Malt: For
rounded sweet malt profile.
Tipple Pale Malt:
For smooth sweet malt
character.
Pale Crystal Malt:
For balancing the
hop bitterness.
Hops
Goldings: For bitterness
and orange peel aroma.
Sovereign: For rounded
fruitiness and orange
blossom floral aroma.
Yeas t
Bottom fermenting South
Bavarian Lager Yeast:
For clean fermentation.

Just need to find the ingredients and work out the proportions lol - ok so it might be easier to just buy the beer

 

[Pinck]

I can try to put together a recipe that will get you close based on those descriptions.

Are you brewing all grain or extract? Are you able to ferment at lager temps?

 

[seamus]

I have no idea!! :rofl:

All I know is that I need lots of help so fire away!

As for cold lagering the missus would kill me if I hijacked the fridge :nono: