Kwik Clear and other 2 part finings

[Ryan87]

My understanding of the way finings work is by adding positively or negatively charged particles to your batch of beer, wine, cider and like a magnet they will attract particles within your brew to themselves, until they are heavy enough to sink to the bottom and settle out.

Kwik Clear has 2 pots;

Pot A containing Kieselsol which is negatively charged
Pot B containing Gelatine which is positively charged

Instructions say add pot A and mix, wait 30 mins then add pot B.

The above does work, but can take anywhere up to a week to become crystal clear... or longer.


Ok, so here is my train of thought.

Would it be more efficient to add part A, let the Kieselsol attract all the positively charged particles (negative particles still in suspension), clump together and sink to the bottom. Then after a few days rack into a clean vessel and THEN add part B to the newly racked liquid to do the same to the negatively charged particles???

As how much of the efficiency of the finings will be lost simply by Part A and Part B becoming attracted to each other (becoming a balanced charge) and then in turn dropping out of suspension without contributing to the cause of clearing up the brew??

I may be barking up the wrong tree, but if anyone educated in the world of finings has any input i'd gladly read it.

Thank you and Cheers! :thumb:

 

[Rockuronium]

I've never waited a week, 48 hours at most for clear wine. Racking a 3rd time IMO is unnecessary. I see what you are saying though. [emoji848]


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[Chippy_Tea]

The wines i make usually clear in 24 hours and if not are clear in 48 using Kwik clear or Young's clear it, I have had a couple of stubborn ones that took a little longer but they have been few and far apart.

The instructions say to add 1ml to a gallon if the wine is fairly clear and 2ml if not.

 

[Ryan87]

I may start doubling up on the finings then.
I've used the kwik clear on a mead and a cider and both times it seems to clear to about half way down the DJ, but still remain hazy toward the bottom after 2 days; hence why I leave it longer till its completely clear.

I've just been thinking about the science behind finings and if the particles and their opposite charges are actually cancelling each other out.

Thanks for the comment.

 

[Rockuronium]

I use 2ml of both A & B per gallon (4.5L).


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[Chippy_Tea]

I've used the kwik clear on a mead and a cider and both times it seems to clear to about half way down the DJ,

I have never made mead but having seen many pictures of other members attempts it looks like it would be a challenge for any fining, i guess its a case of add more if its not clearing or give it time and it will get there.

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[Razor]

My mead didn't completely clear until about 1 month in the bottle. But mead is supposed to sit for a good while before drinking anyway.


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