Keyless entry.

[Chippy_Tea]

I think what Kelper was trying to point out is that these people are grabbing your signals at supermarkets car parks etc as they steal to order (specific vehicles) and they then follow you home and already have the signal they need to be used when they desire.

I don't think you can record the signal for later use i thought you had to have the two boxes at the address for it to work as in the picture below.

 

[kelper]

With cordless grinders so cheap, I don't think steering wheel locks are any deterrent to a determined thief. Thirty seconds to remove.

 

[The Baron]

Hi Chippy Thieves armed with advanced gadgets are thought to lie in wait for desirable cars. When the owner locks the doors, the signal is captured by the device, which then calculates the unlock code. Though there is little evidence this method is currently being used commonly at this time, some experts are convinced it is a looming threat. I believe it is pretty new grabbing the signal this way rather than the ones in the vid. As already been said thieves are evolving new ways all the time and this is used by advanced criminal gangs it is the second generation grabber

 

[kelper]

I think what Kelper was trying to point out is that these people are grabbing your signals at supermarkets car parks etc as they steal to order (specific vehicles) and they then follow you home and already have the signal they need to be used when they desire. I personally know that a majority of these vehicles are stolen and stripped for parts abroad or made into ringers, same place all the tractors and farm vehicles are going a very lucrative trade since the borders were opened

I was thinking of thieves lurking near you either at home or anywhere you park. I don't think the codes captured will work for long. They normally use rolling codes which change every thirty seconds or less. As the diagram above shows, there has to be a 'handshake' between the car and the fob.

 

[Rodj]

Even the Tardis has a key, for heaven's sake!

Yes, but it's a good old-fashioned manual stick-it-in-the-keyhole-and-turn sort, not remote. Otherwise the Daleks would have cloned the signal long ago and nicked the Tardis.

 

[Leon103]

If people want to steal a car they will do it whether it's keyless or not. You can grab a signal from a tranditional key fob, ok you need to be close by but in a car park, street it's pretty easy

 

[dad_of_jon]

I thought the same but what about a supermarket car park they could place themselves in a position where they could read the signal as you leave the car so i guess the only solution would be to place the key in the pouch as soon as you lock it.

You have to be a few meters from the key and the car. This is where you keep an eye out for someone suspicious near your car and/or someone following you. The distance between the two thieves with transmitters can be much larger. We parked in west london in a secure car park and our hotel was in camden. best of luck them waiting for us on our return or following the car over 120 miles before we stopped next . Rolling codes stop a replay attack.

 

[kelper]

I wonder how many cars are stolen from supermarket carparks or similar?

 

[Dexter101]

Regarding post about no Vauxhall & Ford @Chippy_Tea I think designers are trying to maximise their returns on dealer work at the moment. The move to electric (although slow) will put a huge dent in car service/maintainence costs so probably a ploy to get more work short term. I now drive a Honda with cam chain driven engine. If looked after, should last the life of the vehicle. Thats what I want from my car.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I now drive a Honda with cam chain driven engine. If looked after, should last the life of the vehicle. Thats what I want from my car.

I agree, the last two cars i have owned have been cam chain, i regularly have the oil changed and touch wood have never had an issue with chains.

I have been reading about replacement chains for these engines but would you trust a back street car dealer telling you it has been done when buying a high mileage engine that started out with BIO.