Keir Starmer: one year in, Labour leader's popularity has plunged

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I didn't want him to get the job and i am not surprised to read this -

The first anniversary of Keir Starmer taking the reins of the Labour party comes at a very awkward moment considering his standing in the polls.

His approval ratings have tanked from record highs to his first negative ratings in the last few weeks. Last June, Ipsos Mori found Starmer enjoyed a rating of +31%, the joint highest for any leader of opposition since the polling company began tracking opposition leaders in the 1970s.

Starmer’s standing slipped to a still respectable score of +15% in October. But by March, only 33% were satisfied with the job Starmer was doing, compared with 42% who were dissatisfied, giving him a net score of -9%. Britain Elects also put Starmer in negative territory for the first time in March.

“He’s got to turn that round,” says Keiran Pedley, the director of politics at Ipsos Mori.

One of the most worrying aspects for Starmer was his rating among Labour supporters, Pedley said. “What has stood out for me is one in five Labour voters from 2019 say they are unfavourable towards Starmer and one in five think he is going to move the party in the wrong direction. They don’t think he is opposing the government strongly enough.”

This could be the start of a “José Mourinho factor” for Starmer, Pedley said. Like the football manager, Starmer managed to persuade Labour supporters that he was a winner, even if they had doubts about his tactics. But when Mourinho’s teams start losing, fans are very quick to lose heart. So if Labour were to do badly in next month’s local elections and the byelection in Hartlepool, party supporters and MPs could really turn on Starmer, Pedley said.

“I’d be surprised if he faced a leadership challenge, because the threshold for that is high, but if they lost Hartlepool, that could be quite a big symbol,” he added.

James Johnson, a former Downing Street pollster who worked under Theresa May, found that voters were unsure about Starmer. His firm, JL Partners, found 37% agreed the reason they would not vote Labour was that it was unclear what Starmer stood for.

Pedley has noticed a similar trend. He said: “People say they don’t know enough about him, and there may be a sense he sits on the fence. It is fair to say there is no obvious Starmerism.”
But this is not necessarily harmful to Starmer. Pedley pointed out that people knew what Corbyn stood for and he suffered record lows in approval ratings. “Even now Starmer’s ratings are better than Corbyn was getting.”

So while the polling shows the “honeymoon is over” for Starmer, it is too early to write him off, according to Pedley.

The success of the vaccine programme makes this a particularly challenging time for a leader of the opposition. Even 85% of Labour voters are satisfied with the vaccine programme, according to Ipsos Mori. Pedley said: “The external environment Starmer is operating under is quite unique and likely to change – governments don’t have positive headlines for ever, so maybe this is just a blip.”

Starmer could draw comfort from the example of David Cameron. A year after being elected Tory leader, Cameron had an approval rating of -5%, but became prime minister four years later. Pedley said: “A year in, and it is clear that Starmer has got challenges, and you can’t just dismiss these because of the success of the vaccine programme.

“But the future is still very much up for grabs. We don’t know what the mood music around the government is going to be six months from now, never mind two or three years.”


Keir Starmer: one year in, Labour leader's popularity has plunged | Labour | The Guardian
 
And will that 'radical rethink' bring them any more more votes in the NW?

I'm not sure PMQ matters that much outside the Westminster bubble. How many watch it? Nevertheless, KS has been a disappointment even to those who initially backed him.
 
This guy is not the leader I wanted and if nothing changes and soon they have no chance of winning an election.
 
I thought he was a move in the right direction for Labour. Since he is appears to be reasonable in terms of debate, and After all, he is a knight of the realm.

He tried it on with Borris yesterday and received a good kick in, that was fun to watch.

Plamping on about decorating the PM’s flat isn’t going to unseat a popular PM, bumbling or otherwise.

To be honest, the fact that flat issue is all he has to waste the PM’s question time with is probably a sign that he is clueless.

A Tony Blair, he is not!
 
In 76 years since the end of the war, Labour have been in power for a total of less than 30 years, 10 of those was Tony Blair. Blair and Wilson are the only two Labour leaders to actually win general elections in the last 60 years. To win an election, parties have to very pragmatic and understand that being too ideological narrows appeal. Blair knew that and the Tories since have worked off that blueprint. I don’t think Starmer needs to offer anything too different to the Tories, he knows that Socialism won’t win a majority, he just needs to make a case that he the can deliver what the Tories promise, just better. That’s the theory but in practice, I can’t see him making that case convincingly.
 
Unfortunately Labour have been here before, he was the best of the proposed candidates for the job. Corbyn was an unelectable communist and the hard left minority of the party had taken over, any leader following that fiasco would have a tough job. It’s a broad church, or used to be, I’m no longer a member. Add in the pandemic and he’s done a decent job, damned if he goes after Bozo damned if he doesn’t, he has consistently held the govt to account on the key issues and can out class most of the unfortunately lack lustre government front bench. Whether he can pull it all together and win an election remains to be seen, I hope he can there’s a lot to be done!
 
It's all about telling the truth, nothing to do with the cost really. Good job Boris is not Pinnochio or he'd never get into the chamber. Boris is a wonderfully entertaining clown but he's rolling around like a pickled onion on a plate, if he sticks around long enough he will get skewered on something sometime. As Max Hastings commented on R4 the other day it will be surprising if Boris can resist the temptation to leave politics and make the fortune awaiting him as a newspaper columnist and TV entertainer. However he will need to get out before the fickle voting public turn on him and his political career ends in ruins.
So I suspect that things could look a lot different for Starmer in the fullness of time. However it never ceases to amaze me how much weight the stupid voting public put on charisma, so very many times throughout history that has led to disaster.
 
However it never ceases to amaze me how much weight the stupid voting public put on charisma, so very many times throughout history that has led to disaster.

Do you actually know anyone who didn't vote because they didn't like the party leader, I vote for the party and imagine the majority do.
The stupid voting public dont change party leaders look who got rid of Corbyn.
It's a little short sighted to think people don't vote for a party purely because they don't like the leader, I couldn't stand Blair but it didn't stop me voting Labour.
On the subject of charisma it hasn't done Boris any harm look how far the bumbling fool act has got him.
 
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Largely, labour voters went over to the torries because of brexiteer boris not because they suddenly became supporters of the conservatives per se.
 
I think politics has taken a huge jump to the right, I don't consider Corbyn's policies to be communist, more common sense and centrist. However he was unelectable because the media was against him as he was a threat. You don't see the press camped out Starmer's house as he's safe, he won't rock the boat, or stop the gravy train.

I do find it absurd that it seems ok if you give somebody you are shagging a 100K grant, and all while your wife is on chemo. Its also OK to make loads of terrible decisions that have cost thousands of lives in the pandemic, that's fine. It's also OK to give your mates billions of public money in contracts without competition and receive shoddy goods and services, that's great. But somebody buys your wallpaper, well you rotter.

The only reason BJ has good ratings is the vaccine roll-out success, and that was largely a true NHS success story as they were allowed to get on with it with little government insistence on using their dodgy outsourcing deals. Ironically its still full steam ahead to privatise the NHS, so he's crapping all over the reason for his current popularity.

Politics relies on a fairly impartial, or at least balanced press/media. Unfortunately, it is 95% skewed to the right. The only reason Starmer is having a go at BJ about curtains is that the press has signalled its ok to do so. BJ has done his job and got the Tories in, now for somebody who is less of a liability to sell off the NHS and make sure the 1% get richer while the press pulls every flag waiving nationalist trick in the book to make the voters believe we are all in it together.
 
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I think politics has taken a huge jump to the right, I don't consider Corbyn's policies to be communist, more common sense and centrist. However he was unelectable because the media was against him as he was a threat. You don't see the press camped out Starmer's house as he's safe, he won't rock the boat, or stop the gravy train.

I do find it absurd that it seems ok if you give somebody you are shagging a 100K grant, and all while your wife is on chemo. Its also OK to make loads of terrible decisions that have cost thousands of lives in the pandemic, that's fine. It's also OK to give your mates billions of public money in contracts with competition and receive shoddy goods and services, that's great. But somebody buys your wallpaper, well you rotter.

The only reason BJ has good ratings is the vaccine roll-out success, and that was largely a true NHS success story as they were allowed to get on with it with little government insistence on using their dodgy outsourcing deals. Ironically its still full steam ahead to privatise the NHS, so he's crapping all over the reason for his current popularity.

Politics relies on a fairly impartial, or at least balanced press/media. Unfortunately, it is 95% skewed to the right. The only reason Starmer is having a go at BJ about curtains is that the press has signalled its ok to do so. BJ has done his job and got the Tories in, now for somebody who is less of a liability to sell off the NHS and make sure the 1% get richer while press pulls every flag waiving nationalist trick in the book to make the voters believe we are all in it together.
I agree with most of that but Corbin was no centrist. He was a hard left puppet picked from the back benches by momentum who (momentum) did the best to destroy the party. Keir has a lot of work to do to mend that.
 
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If I was Starmer I wouldn't want to be anywhere near no. 10. Whoever is chosen to pick the pieces up after Boris has finished will have one hell of a job!
 
If I was Starmer I wouldn't want to be anywhere near no. 10. Whoever is chosen to pick the pieces up after Boris has finished will have one hell of a job!
Funny enough I was thinking just the same thing ... recovering some future from the wreckage of Brexit, the possiblilty of Scottish devolution, the massive fiscal hole created by the pandemic, the incredible cost we are all going to face to solve decarbonisation, piece of cake really, but I think I'll stick to brewing.
 
I agree with most of that but Corbin was no centrist. He was a hard left puppet picked from the back benches by momentum who (momentum) did the best to destroy the party. Keir has a lot of work to do to mend that.

I said his policies, not him :) Having said that, just 'cos he has an allotment and likes manhole covers doesn't make him a commie.

The last Labour manifesto has been plagiarised quite a bit by Boris when it suits him. broadband for example. It was a crazy communist idea when Corbyn suggested quality broadband for everybody. However when Boris mentions it, then, well, that's somehow not a crazy communist idea. The difference is that Corbyn may well have delivered it, Boris and his chums won't with their 5 Billion, with 4 Billion going to his mates first, it's all sound bites and empty promises.
 
Unless something unexpected happens Labour have no chance of getting into power.

It's hard to get people you obviously despise and hold as contemptable racists/homophobes etc to vote for you, we may be thick but not that thick.

No, labour have become the party of university educated uber woke hardliners more than ready to tread on the faces of the white male oppressors.

As an elderly white working class male I'm reduced to a figure of fun, your not allowed to laugh at any one else, and the party I'd like to support are all for this which it's such a shame as I'm an old fashioned socialist at heart.

Oh well............ aamcle
 
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