It's a hung parliament.

[Gunge]

7. There is no point 7.

Lol!! Rest of it pretty good, too!

 

[Tripster]

Can't knock that, sounds good to me

 

[Chippy_Tea]

It would appear (according to an interview I have just listened to on 5live) May doing a deal behind closed doors may eventually put at risk the peace process, I didn't catch the blokes name but he was one of the main men in the negotiations and he said not talking to both sides will cause problems, I don't pretend to know anything about such things but if a guy in his position says it could happen I find it a bit of a worry.

 

[Lawrence22]

It would appear (according to an interview I have just listened to on 5live) May doing a deal behind closed doors may eventually put at risk the peace process, I didn't catch the blokes name but he was one of the main men in the negotiations and he said not talking to both sides will cause problems, I don't pretend to know anything about such things but if a guy in his position says it could happen I find it a bit of a worry.

It could put the devolved institutions at risk, but not the peace process. We've moved too far on for that.

 

[Godsdog]

replaced the two sacked chief of staff advisers with one of their mates another remainer in gavin barwell who lost his seat in the election,May doesn't seem to learn from her failures in surrounding herself with advisers who have little or no interest in moving brexit forward.she will be toast very very soon methinks

 

[Godsdog]

breaking news the elephant has entered the room ,wouldn't trust him as far as I could chuck him
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4592016/Boris-set-launch-bid-PM-clings-on.html

 

[shepp]

I'm not sold on Boris, the thinking is probably that he beat Livingston twice to be London Mayor, but things have moved on a bit from there.
I think the kids want their free **** now and we will end up with a socialist government in a few years.
These things are cyclical and the kids will have to learn the hard way.

 

[dad_of_jon]

I'm not sold on Boris, the thinking is probably that he beat Livingston twice to be London Mayor, but things have moved on a bit from there.
I think the kids want their free **** now and we will end up with a socialist government in a few years.
These things are cyclical and the kids will have to learn the hard way.

well the lib dems crapped on the students with tuition fees u-turn, labour have yet to screw them over, but when they do the vote will go either elsewhere or disappear.

 

[BeerCat]

Unfortunately the hung was not literal. Can only live in hope. :mrgreen:

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

* "kids want their free stuff" - as opposed to big companies wanting to make massive profits and pay little or no tax. Does that count as "free stuff"?

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

How could you not be convinced by Boris?

Look at his achievements in politics? Observe the steadfast and clear vision he's communicated throughout his career.

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

Brexit negotiation would be simple for me. Starting point, not for negotiation or discussion, would be......................
1. All agreement on trade and treatment of foreign nationals to be reciprocal
2. No EU law or court will be superior to UK law.
3. We will have total control of immigration.
4. Our 200 mile limit will be managed entirely by the UK.
5. We will pay for previously agreed liabilities until the day we leave when all liabilities will be considered to have ended.
6. No punitive payments to compensate for EU's losses when we leave.
7. There is no point 7.
8. We shall leave before 2019, if possible to reduce our costs.
That should sort it.

Oui. Simple, en effet.

1. All agreement on trade and treatment of foreign nationals to be reciprocal. Oui.

2. No EU law or court will be superior to UK law.
C'est votre décision. Nous notons que vous avez l'intention d'importer toutes les lois de l'UE en droit britannique, par l'intermédiaire de la Great Copy and Paste Act.

3. We will have total control of immigration.
Absolument. Nous comprenons que c'est une raison importante pour votre décision. Cependant, la libre circulation des frontières est un principe central de nos accords. Par conséquent, si vous suggérez une fin de la libre circulation, je crains que la conséquence soit que vous vous refusez un accès ouvert et gratuit au marché. Vous ne pouvez pas avoir de beans sur tout.

4. Our 200 mile limit will be managed entirely by the UK.
C'est une question de négociation, bien sûr.

5. We will pay for previously agreed liabilities until the day we leave when all liabilities will be considered to have ended.
Je ne suis pas sûr que ce soit une question de choix, mais nous apprécions votre acceptation de vos responsabilités. Regarde, nous progressons déjà. Et tout le monde a dit que cela serait très difficile. Bravo.

6. No punitive payments to compensate for EU's losses when we leave.
Nous ne voudrions jamais utiliser le mot que vous avez utilisé. Nous préférons penser en termes de pertinence.

7. There is no point 7.
Il y a toujours un point 7. Et 8. Vous ne le connaissez pas. Encore.

8. We shall leave before 2019, if possible to reduce our costs.
Nous sommes sûrs que plus tôt sera le meilleur, mais le Royaume-Uni doit respecter le fait que l'UE a beaucoup d'autres choses à traiter. Cette décision est la seule du Royaume-Uni, et le Royaume-Uni doit accepter un calendrier qui correspond à nos besoins collectifs. Tout au long de ce processus, le Royaume-Uni doit comprendre la position dans laquelle il s'est installé.

Nous notons les récentes élections générales au Royaume-Uni. Nous sommes impatients de rencontrer votre chef suprême en temps voulu. Nous promettons de ne pas prendre la pisse.

 

[Gunge]

I didn't understand a word of that! It was like walking around in our local supermarket. Another good reason to get out of Europe. Or better still, get Europe out of us. Time for some coffee and croissants, methinks!

 

[MickDundee]

* "kids want their free stuff" - as opposed to big companies wanting to make massive profits and pay little or no tax. Does that count as "free stuff"?

How dare they want investment in public services and for everyone, rich or poor, to have the same right to Higher Education! Those ungrateful kids!

 

[Covrich]

Wondered what Gunge was on about and then I seen my browser auto translated.

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

Wondered what Gunge was on about....

fixed that :lol:

 

[HebridesRob]

https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2017/06/10/97-while-time-allows-part-one/

As was explained in the previous article, the outcome of the British general election was eminently predictable. Yet the Prime Minister, her advisors, her colleagues and the “experts” – that is to say, supposedly the “finest minds” in government and politics – did fail to predict it.
They seem genuinely to have been gobsmacked by a result which any intelligent observer should have seen coming.
This debacle cannot be blamed entirely on Theresa May, tempting though that must be to those who share responsibility. To be sure, her plan to stay in office with the help of the DUP (the Ulster Unionists) does make her look detached from the real world. But the decision to call an unnecessary election was not taken by her alone. We can assume that ministers and advisors concurred with her assessment that triggering a vote would deliver a greatly increased majority. Professional analysts and commentators, collectively known as “the experts”, clearly thought so, too.
This, then, was an extreme case of shared folly. An impartial observer might well wonder whether these people are fit to run a whelk-stall.
Unfortunately, international capital markets may now be starting to wonder much the same thing.
We need to understand this collective loss of wits, and not just because the British public deserve better. There is every likelihood that political farce could, within months, turn into economic tragedy.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XNfCDSDiYY[/ame]

 

[Duxuk]

It's certainly true that international investors will not appreciate the uncertainties of a loose coalition. Just imagine what would have happened if labour, under Corbyn, had won. 2 generations would have passed before the debt was paid off. Business knows this and would have taken it's money somewhere sensible. Labour's policies remind me those unfortunates who are taken in by pay day loans. If you don't have it to spend you can borrow it. If you can't then pay it back it will be 1974 all over again. We'll be begging the IMF to save us and have to accept their conditions, no matter how loathsome they are. The world can't afford to allow our massive economy to fail but they can allow us to cripple ourselves until I, for one, have shuffled off this mortal coil.

 

[HebridesRob]

It's certainly true that international investors will not appreciate the uncertainties of a loose coalition. Just imagine what would have happened if labour, under Corbyn, had won. 2 generations would have passed before the debt was paid off. Business knows this and would have taken it's money somewhere sensible. Labour's policies remind me those unfortunates who are taken in by pay day loans. If you don't have it to spend you can borrow it. If you can't then pay it back it will be 1974 all over again. We'll be begging the IMF to save us and have to accept their conditions, no matter how loathsome they are. The world can't afford to allow our massive economy to fail but they can allow us to cripple ourselves until I, for one, have shuffled off this mortal coil.

Just out of interest. Post Brexit...
What will the UK export? Who will we export to?