General election & new Labour government thread.

[Bosch]

What's you'll never walk alone? It comes from a motivational paper/speech for those suffering from self-doubt and fear of the unknown.

Just like the song, "You'll never walk alone"
Helps Liverpudlians suffering from self doubt and fear

 

[Chippy_Tea]

What he actually states is, 'we will be targeting Labour votes, we are coming for Labour' pretty normal election jargon what party doesn't try to convince voters to their way of thinking?
Reform has done remarkably well in the 6 weeks leading up to the election, and did better than the Lib Dems vote-wise, imagine what they will be like in 4 years.
The next set of GDP figures comes out at the end of the month, if they go up again things will get really interesting.

Well said Foxy.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

And if PR came in

More people would turn out there would be no tactical voting the results would be a lot different!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Farage vows to change politics forever after win​

"We're going to focus on going after the Labour vote" he said.

Updated 5 July 2024

Nigel Farage has promised to "change politics forever" after his Reform UK party won more than four million votes, propelling him into Parliament for the first time.
Reform UK has won five seats in the House of Commons, with a 14.3% share of the vote.
Mr Farage overturned a Conservative majority of more than 25,000 to comfortably win in Clacton, Essex - a race which marked his eighth attempt to enter the Commons.
The election was the first step in a “mass movement across the country” that would "change politics for ever”, he told supporters.
Mr Farage's first press conference as an MP was interrupted by six protesters who repeatedly accused the Reform leader of being racist and planning to sell off the NHS.
As Reform supporters removed the protesters one by one, Mr Farage suggested they could be paid actors aiming to disrupt his plans.
Mr Farage said: "The political establishment are in fear in private as to what happened last night with those results in the election."
When he returned to frontline politics and took over as head of Reform in June, Mr Farage said he had two aims - "first to get millions of votes" and the "second was to establish a bridgehead in parliament".
Mr Farage promised to now use his platform in Parliament and "work with anyone" to achieve his long-time aim of scrapping the First Past the Post Electoral system - highlighting the party's 14% vote share that yielded just five MPs.
"Above all what we're going to do from today is we're going to professionalise the party, we're going to democratise the party and those few bad apples that have crept in will be gone, will be long gone, and we will never have any of their type back in our organisation," he said.
Mr Farage denied he would join any pact with the Tories, saying he would prefer to "let the Conservative Party tear themselves apart".
"We're going to focus on going after the Labour vote" instead, he said.

Full article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gw83w8xg9o

 

[Rodcx500z]

Well it's Saturday 2 days in, nowts changed and nowt will but your wallet may get lighter

 

[klaus]

Re: "going after the labour vote" is putting it mildly to avoid too much alarm amongst potential supporters.

But Ref are wreckers, just like their friends in the rest of Europe.

The AfD in Germany put it more directly after their gain of 80+ seats in the Bundestag, most of which were taken by list candidates rather than directly elected (that's proportional rep for you!). One of their leaders was telling (or threatening?) the government "we will hunt you". Populists want to destroy democratic institutions and in the end democracy.

That's why cosying up to those people is a dangerous game - Germany's history has shown clearly how that was done. And don't tell me it couldn't happen here in the UK (British exceptionalism?), everything is different now, etc etc.

 

[ClownPrince]

FFS he hasn't had time to choose the new wallpaper and arrange the furniture and his haters are already into him -
On X, formerly Twitter, one person asked: "Why is no one flying a wee St George cross flag in Downing Street? I see the Saltire, Welsh dragon & Union Flag but no English flags? Seems quite poor optics." Another asked: "Where’s the St George Cross?"
A third added: "Where's the f***ing Cross of St George flags? Only been Prime Minister for five minutes and he's f****d up."
"Just watching the group in Downing Street waving flags, fair enough but where's the English flag," another chimed in. "They have Union flags, Saltires and Welsh. Where's the Cross of St George? Aye, start as you mean to go on right enough."

Reject modernity embrace tradition. I want people to be flying this bad boy:

 

[klaus]

That's only the start!

So-called "social media" tools will be used to fire up the online war against the government. And Ref will be orchestrating a lot of this, though they don't need to wait as there are loads of online warriors already active.

 

[Brew_DD2]

Will be interesting to see how popular he is after 4 years of actually being accountable to a constituency.

 

[ClownPrince]

Will be interesting to see how popular he is after 4 years of actually being accountable to a constituency.

There's plenty of other constituencies he can move to. Man didn't turn up to his job at the European parliament for years and people still voted for him like he was doing the lord's work.

 

[klaus]

Ref are not really interested in constituency work, it's just a way of getting into parliament and then collecting the handsome salaries and allowances (and pensions!). And giving "researcher" jobs to "their people". And they have have access to lots of confidential stuff which will no doubt come in handy when attacking our government.

 

[Brew_DD2]

There's plenty of other constituencies he can move to. Man didn't turn up to his job at the European parliament for years and people still voted for him like he was doing the lord's work.

Very true. His base thought it was great that he didn't bother his ar*e with European Parliament though. They might be less chuffed when he swans off to Washington in November, and doesn't run constituency surgeries.

 

[ClownPrince]

Very true. His base thought it was great that he didn't bother his a*rse with European Parliament though. They might be less chuffed when he swans off to Washington in November, and doesn't run constituency surgeries.

I mean, Rochdale got rid of Galloway, I suppose having a famous MP loses it's charm when you realise he's a chancing dosser.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

. They might be less chuffed when he swans off to Washington in November, and doesn't run constituency surgeries.

Pure speculation they may never have to worry about him swanning off!

 

[Bosch]

I mean, Rochdale got rid of Galloway, I suppose having a famous MP loses it's charm when you realise he's a chancing dosser.

Apparently Galloway didn't even bother his bum showing up for the count.

Was listening earlier that Reforms share of the votes reflects the UKIP and Brexit party vote.

You'd wonder if reforms votes actually reflects a constituency or is it just a protest vote

 

[ClownPrince]

Apparently Galloway didn't even bother his bum showing up for the count.
Was listening earlier that Reforms share of the votes reflects the UKIP and Brexit party vote.
You'd wonder if reforms votes actually reflects a constituency or is it just a protest vote

I'd say 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Massive hardhat or not Nigel is popular, however I suspect a lot of people voting Reform are doing so because they're sick of the tories and can't bring themselves to vote labour or vice versa.

 

[ClownPrince]

Pure speculation they may never have to worry about him swanning off!

I'd be more worried about him not swanning off TBH. I would say that while, yes, it is speculation his record indicates he probably will take at least one trip to visit one of his dictator friends.

 

[Brew_DD2]

Pure speculation they may never have to worry about him swanning off!

It is speculation, but I am basing it on past behaviour. It's not just a random guess.

 

[ClownPrince]

It is speculation, but I am basing it on past behaviour. It's not just a random guess.

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[Chippy_Tea]

It is speculation,

In that case i will throw in he will be Tory leader within a couple of months.